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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 07:59:43 PM » Post #59802  Reply to: Guest at Post 59754

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Well, I think it's official: PlanetQuo is nuts. Intelligent, to a degree, but nuts.

Ya think? 

I have to admit. I've NEVER seen anything like it.

I say it's David Icke himself. 
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 08:01:16 PM » Post #59804  Reply to: DonnieDarko, at Post 59798

Monteith is an excellent speaker on Cecil Rhodes and the Round Table Groups but REFUSES to use the term "zionist" or "jews". He will however use the terms Luciferian, OTO, Theosophical Society, Satanists, Lucius Trust, etc... adinfunatim...
I am sure that Monteith, like the JBS, has his reasons. After all, there are clueless Jews. I'd have to agree with DBS in that any Jewish individual(s) who is (are) 'fighting the good fight' is questionable since they already have a bad rap from the Elders.

Icke is self evident.
I say we have been visited by one Mr David Icke. Wink
I must admit that after washing my ears and mostly my brain out with Alex Jones, I didn't get much into Icke.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 08:18:02 PM » Post #59806  Reply to: NOLAJBS, at Post 59804

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I must admit that after washing my ears and mostly my brain out with Alex Jones, I didn't get much into Icke.

Beyond the obvious idiocy...watch his mannerisms, tone of voice and other speech patterns when he gets onto things "other" than the "meat & potatoes". This man is compromised. No one would care so much for sexually abused kids that he would smear the subject with lizard crap. Outrageous.

Also, he is THE "archetypal" disinfo agent...

Establishment media.

Nervous breakdown/unstable personality.

Able to withstand TREMENDOUS ridicule.

All over the telly...constantly.

I could go on and on...

Whatever...everyone should have pulled up this arsehole at THE frist mention of shape shifting lizards. Instead all i heard was..."well yeh he's a bit strange but he speaks well".

Thank God for DBS etc...
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 09:27:28 PM » Post #59825  Reply to: NOLAJBS, at Post 59762

Cheers Turan (have another)

What does this mean?

I don't 'drink'.

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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 09:28:42 PM » Post #59826  Reply to: Guest at Post 59741

Looks like I struck a nerve.

Heh.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 09:38:06 PM » Post #59828  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 59765

What if I could make a case that the thread never really deviated from the topic?

I'm sure you could. Feel free to if you'd like, but I think I see where you're coming from already.

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Would you still feel so "Comfortably Numb"? ©1980, Pink Floyd

I don't get what you're saying by this. I hope you're not taking some aggressive and/or condescending stance with me, I was only making light of the hi-jinks engaged in thus far on this thread (not by you). I'd like to get back to some substance in general on this forum (tho' I think this thread's a lost cause, and never held much interest for me in the first place anyway, since the material and arguments FOR AND AGAINST are all so specious...)...

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The thread subject says "Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'" (X).

The question up for discussion is:
How can we determine anything about X, when all we can do is evaluate the credibility of the source or sources involved, possible motives and how all this fits into the current time frame.

Until post 26, that discussion revolved around the credibility of entities "out there", and ever since, they revolve around the same issues defining entities "in here" - good old credibility. Every single post/opinion is weighed against that credibility - or should be. Neither those "out there" nor those "in here" can escape it or should get a free pass, especially since we can't possibly know for sure "who is who" (and what). Someone from "out there" may in fact be "in here" and vice versa.

How you determine all that is up for discussion - perfectly within thread context.
My contribution (often with examples) to determine this fundamental part to every discussion:
Weigh the combined effect of "Form, Method, Substance, Behavior" - or character for short.

See above.

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Else we are stuck - like the suck-puppets in the galleries - to evaluate a message by who screams loudest, who uses more appropriate smileys, who can afford faster CPUs - all stuff of zero consequence "when brain meets thought". Messenger over message - the great curse...

Yeah, but those of us interested in 'quality over quantity' know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

Read 'Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance' if you have any doubts about how to search out 'quality'....at least as a start....not that 'you personally' need the help, that's just as a general tip.....

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Something like learning, getting informed is what most are here for, or at least pretend to be. How can anyone do that, when they risk to be constantly lead around by the nose, just as in the controlled media, where most recognize the trap, but for some reason think it stops after turning off the tube.

It is in my view the most important topic; for otherwise it becomes simply the old bovine question of which wannabe 'dear leader' to mindlessly follow... the antithesis of free men - worse than slaves, because the condition is voluntary, akin to Noahites...

I concur with all of the above.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 06, 2007, 11:23:24 PM » Post #59837  Reply to: Guest at Post 59828

I don't get what you're saying by this. I hope you're not taking some aggressive and/or condescending stance with me, ...

Oh Christ, are smilies now required?
You called it all "too boring". Should I have been insulted?

Yeah, but those of us interested in 'quality over quantity' know how to separate the wheat from the chaff.

True, but if we only concern ourselves with that, we end up "preaching to the choir". There are visitors who may not yet have the ability or experience for that discernment. Besides, there are subjets where I appreciate someone doing the separating for me, because I simply don't "know" the subject. In such cases it helps to know HOW to evaluate the credibility of that someone, especially if there are more than one view of what is supposed to be wheat and what is not.

What it boils down to, is that a thread such as this may be entertaining or boring for advanced students (I hope you agree that we all are students), but can be highly useful in helping less advanced ones to navigate the traps of unrestrained discourse - even if it clicks in only one at the time.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 12:20:23 AM » Post #59842  Reply to: Guest at Post 59828

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tho' I think this thread's a lost cause, and never held much interest for me in the first place anyway, since the material and arguments FOR AND AGAINST are all so specious...

In the days in which we live you think pulling someone up for "respecting" 2 disinfo agents is "specious"?

I would consider it self evident.

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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 01:18:04 AM » Post #59863  Reply to: DonnieDarko, at Post 59842

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I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean people here or DBS and the crew? If it's DBS etc...then I think alot of people are pretty pleased with their efforts. I don't want to come across as a "groupie" of them. For instance DBS NEVER replies to my e-mails except the very first one I sent a few months back asking if he thought *Makow was a DEFINITE Zio Plant. He sent back a rather condescending short reply to which I asked for specifics and never heard from him again. E.H reply's to me regularly when I send him links and I asked about certain issues but he is obviously guarded in his responses. Basically I will continue to support until they make some rather obvious error. I am just happy as hell Rense and Icke are off the Christmas card list as are so many others. They have flooded so many compartments on the good ship Ziocon that they will have plenty of cred for some time to come.

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Do not spoil this thread with irrelevant crap or be forever under suspicion of ulterior motives.

I'm the zionist stooge here!

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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 11:15:56 AM » Post #59894  Reply to: DonnieDarko, at Post 59802

Ya think? 

I have to admit. I've NEVER seen anything like it.

I say it's David Icke himself. 

Jesus you're a fuckwit Donnie.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 11:52:59 AM » Post #59895  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 59837

Oh Christ, are smilies now required?
You called it all "too boring". Should I have been insulted?

I was simply trying to state that PQ's endless rants are boring as hell. Should have been more specific.

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(I hope you agree that we all are students),

I will be a 'student' till the day I die.

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but can be highly useful in helping less advanced ones to navigate the traps of unrestrained discourse - even if it clicks in only one at the time.

Sure - just boring to me, personally.

That's all.

Hope this simple concept doesn't require even further explanation. Seems to be a lot of wires getting crossed around here and people getting defensive. Guess that means the trolls are doing their job...
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 12:02:57 PM » Post #59896  Reply to: DonnieDarko, at Post 59806

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...everyone should have pulled up this arsehole at THE frist mention of shape shifting lizards.

You were pulled for mentioning SHAPE SHIFTING LIZARDS.

It is most gracious of you to admit that you are an arsehole.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 12:10:08 PM » Post #59897  Reply to: Guest at Post 59895

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Guess that means the trolls are doing their job...

But not very well.

You're incompetent too.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 12:13:52 PM » Post #59899  Reply to: DonnieDarko, at Post 59842

In the days in which we live you think pulling someone up for "respecting" 2 disinfo agents is "specious"?

I would consider it self evident.

 Smiley

Again, seems like more wires getting crossed here, or I'm just not explaining myself well enough.

I was actually referring to the arguments 'for and against' the REAL topic of this thread, 'Ed Haas and the conversation in Hebrew'. I find the arguments for and against that topic both specious, due to the red-herring nature of the incident itself and the pointlessness of debating it.

We could debate it for a year and achieve nothing. But the trolls have managed to achieve a large wasting of time and emotion, here. Maybe PQ just enjoys pinhead-dancing, or maybe there's more to it...in any event, he obviously has WAAAAAAY too much free time...

As far as your point in attacking PQ for his endorsement ('respect') of two people about whom he has YET to justify his reasoning for the aforementioned 'respect', I do think you flew a bit off the handle there - although you have apologized a few times it seems, apparently to no avail. I did, however, understand your point since, quite frankly, when I read that post I had a "what the hell?" moment, too, in seeing the name of David Icke (Monteith I'm not so familiar with). Since I too think Icke's either nuts or disingenuous.

The blowback that your remarks caused however, are unlike anything I'VE ever seen, either. I've seen enough of your posts to realize that you're simply a passionate guy, and that you also come across as being honest and forthright as hell - even to a fault. You also don't seem to be shy about admitting when you believe your wrong or misinformed, or adjusting or changing your opinion entirely when you feel you need to (PQ's linking to your 'Zionist Denier' piece at LF was, despite his intention, an excellent example of your character and a page in your book that the 'know-it-alls' that populate these corners of cyberspace should take.)

So to me it's utterly laughable to watch this PQ idiot write dozens of ten-thousand-word screeds denouncing you, and yet never get around to explaining his 'respect' for a man who CLAIMS to believe in 'lizard-men'. Not only that, he gets his buddy from MineSpace to come over and help sling the mud (the simple fact that either of these losers bothers to HAVE a 'page' in that data-harvesting empire, and then BRAG about it and their popularity there, speaks for itself...).

Regardless, seems you struck a nerve by questioning PQ's integrity by pointing out what I also considered the ONE WEAK LINK in his spiel. You're not supposed to take that accurate of aim right off the bat, I guess, lol...

While PQ's screeds are pretty boring, the overall picture of mentality that they paint IS rather fascinating. I admit, I have a mordid fascination with folks who are mentally ill and the workings of their minds...

At any rate, I thought you were spot-on to question this guy's respect of Icke, I just think the delivery was rather harsh, but you're aware of that too.

Cheers.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 07, 2007, 12:18:38 PM » Post #59900  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 59897

But not very well.

You're incompetent too.

I don't believe I was speaking to you, dear.

Are you so lonely that you just sit around all day waiting for replies - ANY replies - to this topic? Is abuse of DD and others the only 'contact' you have with humanity, abuse being better than nothing at all? (Rhetorical questions, btw.)

Fuck off, troll. You're insane.
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