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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 03:42:01 PM » Post #60272  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 60270

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How much more obvious can it be?

thus, my 'boiler room 101' comment.

quit farting in the elevator, and acting like no one knows who did it.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 03:56:55 PM » Post #60278  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 60270



And I encourage all lurkers* to think for themselves. Granted, some people can't think for themselves, which is why this place is great. This environment not only teaches them (how and what) to think, it illustrates just how important the Internet is to the Rabbis.

You can lead a horse to water ... and of course, time is of the essence.

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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 04:04:27 PM » Post #60281  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 60253

Help....help....please rescue me Proemio...help...help...damsel in distress....help...help...there's a blowjob in it for you Promeio....help...help...I'm overwhelmed...help...help...I'm not a smartassed big-mouth now....help...help...Promeio, Promeio...where art thou Promeio?

Who could resist this sophisticated display of chicken feathers?


I agree. So absurd is Haas' story that I initiated this thread so that the motives of Haas and his Zionist-protecting associate Alex Jones could be identified. Clearly, there is more to this 'conversation in Hebrew' story than meets the eye. My central tenet is that Haas and Jones have constructed this story for the sole purpose of later demolishing it. And when this story is finally discredited, then the existing evidence proving Israeli foreknowledge of 9-11 will be contaminated. That, I believe, is their objective.

YES, you are a genius, that's their objective -

and here is yours...

Proemio, on page 11, way back when -
re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew' (It):

The rabbis not only are behind 911, they also are in the process of trying to light the big match, and you DEMAND we obsess about a "he said, she said" situation? Or, which wannabe 'dear leader' should the sheep follow to TheTrueTruth to - where?

It's an unresolvable diversion, while the chicken get twirled with ever greater insane intensity.

It's also no different than discussing 'targeted' FAKOG (fast acting knock-out gas) in an airliner.

You confirm this "unresolvability" by your own 'speculations' as to the motives of the various characters involved. That's all there is, another round of speculation about something unsubstantiated and making no difference whatsoever as to "who dunnit" - for that, there is more than enough to call a Grand Jury and worm up the gallows.

You MUST know all that, or your self-assessed 'stature' is grossly overhyped...

So, which is it: "rabbis' little helper" or "as dumb as vain"?



Mine is to stop them.

Right - depending on what the meaning of the word THEM is...


I will copy and paste the above, every time you attempt to smear, buried in a post to someone else, in the hope that I will miss it. I used "highly respect" in a parody of a situation; a situation where "a great deal of respect" was used. I could have said "madly in love" since a parody is "a form of satire that imitates another work of art in order to ridicule it.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 04:37:47 PM » Post #60287  Reply to: Fugazi, at Post 59681

In reply to:
Evidently someone at "anonymouse" or running this forum doesn't think it "Looks good". Thats why they have just been busted for linking the blog link I posted to Porn Spam. Well, did'nt take long to work this set-up out. This is how they tried to set Daryl Bradford Smith up as well.
As well as the other posts regarding porning you out ...

I wanted to wait and see how this panned out before I provided a proper response.

Now, let's get down to business. I too have written the Anonymouse Crew and had absolutely no success. Instead of laying this down unsatisfied, I believe I may have stumbled on a logical answer, which might be embarrassing to some. Nevertheless, I will provide you with what I believe the answer to be. After all, the Anonymouse gods gave me no cheese.

Anonymouse, I believe, works off of stored cookies located in your browser's folder on your hard drive. I also believe that the Internet is way ahead of marketing the way Wal-Mart (and other consumer-driven corporations) wants to market via RFID. You see, the RFID technology wants to reach the goal that when you are running out of/expiring milk, eggs, and (yes) even cheese, the RFID chip will signal a nearby satellite, which bounces the signal to another and to another, etc., until the signal reaches headquarters. Headquarters then sends to your house a scheduled series of televised commercials, marketing to you those very items you might need by the weekend. Likewise, Anonymouse does something similar. Instead of reading RFID signals from an assembly line of satellite signals, it pulls from that very folder which contains cookies, sends a quick signal via the Internet, and gives you a random embedded pop-up advertisement based on a random reading conducted by their coding system.

I tried this. I went to a few locations, on a few PCs, and, just as I suspected, was shown that I was right. At one location, I got ads for college and education (no porn). At another location, I received soft porn ads, dating and the like - this PC visited MySpace and other cesspools of corporate garbage. The only location I actually saw a porn ad was when I went to a (single) buddy of mine's garage and used his laptop. Since he is pornish, Anonymouse fired back ads that matched his cookies. He's got some strange fetishes! Shocked

Having done this experiment, I really do not need Anonymouse to respond to my email inquiries. However, I'll read their explanation if one is provided. If this explanation doesn't satisfy you, I'm afraid there is nothing I can do on this end and do apologize for an inconvenience out of my hands.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 04:48:23 PM » Post #60288  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 60281

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You try, most unconvincingly indeed, to qualify your statement by arguing that your use of quotation marks was made within the context of a 'parody'.

Yet in your second post you state "....all we know is that you agree with essentially nothing the man represents, but "highly respect" him all the same." It is here you come unstuck. By your own definition, this statement cannot be interpreted as anything other than a direct quote - a quote you falsely attribute to me. Since you clearly DO NOT state "If I...("I" would be me)" in the body of your statement, this is therefore no 'parody'. And since you quote me as having stated that I "highly respect" the man-in-question when I have stated no such thing, I have thus substantiated my allegation that you - like your little helper and Debus - are guilty of deception by attributing direct quotes to me that I have never made.

I cite Arden:

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Let me explain. It is a custom of debus to fabricate quotes, as in placing words which were never written inside quotation marks, and attributing them to people, then calling them "liar".  That's chutzpah.

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Amen.

It is also blatant deception, I hasten to add.

The argument you use to qualify your statement is absurd, your squirming and wriggling amusing. And if your interpretation of how quotation marks are to be used within the context of a sentence is to be accepted, it is then reasonable to presume that each time " " appear in any of your posts, the reader may consider you a parodist, and assume that you are making a parody of whatever it is you are quoting.

Eight Traits of the Disinformationalist

1) Avoidance. They never actually discuss issues head-on or provide constructive input, generally avoiding citation of references or credentials. Rather, they merely imply this, that, and the other. Virtually everything about  their presentation implies their authority and  expert knowledge in the matter without any further justification for credibility.

2) Selectivity. They tend to pick and choose opponents carefully, either applying the hit-and-run approach against mere commentators supportive of opponents, or focusing heavier attacks on key opponents who are known to directly address issues. Should a commentatorbecome argumentative with any success, the focus will shift to include the commentator as well.

3) Coincidental. They tend to surface suddenly and somewhat coincidentally with a new controversial topic with no clear prior record of participation in general discussions in the particular public arena involved. They likewise tend to vanish once the topic is no longer of general concern. They were likely directed or elected to be there for a reason, and vanish with the reason.

4) Teamwork. They tend to operate in self-congratulatory and complementary packs or teams. Of course, this can happen naturally in any public forum, but there will likely be an ongoing pattern of frequent exchanges of this sort where professionals are involved. Sometimes one of the players will infiltrate the opponent camp to become a source for straw man or other tactics designed to dilute opponent presentation strength.

5) Anti-conspiratorial. They almost always have disdain for 'conspiracy theorists' and, usually, for those who in any way believe JFK was not killed by LHO. Ask yourself why, if they hold such disdain for conspiracy theorists, do they focus on defending a single topic discussed in a NG focusing on conspiracies? One might think they would either be trying to make fools of everyone on every topic, or simply ignore the group they hold in such disdain.Or, one might more rightly conclude they have  an ulterior motive for their actions in going out of their way to focus as they do.

6) Artificial Emotions. An odd kind of 'artificial' emotionalism and an unusually thick skin -- an ability to persevere and persist even in the face of overwhelming criticism and unacceptance. This likely stems from intelligence community training that, no matter how condemning the evidence, deny everything, and never become emotionally involved or reactive. The net result for a disinfo artist is that emotions can seem artificial. Most people, if responding in anger, for instance, will express their animosity throughout their rebuttal. But disinfo types usually have trouble maintaining the 'image' and are hot and cold with respect to pretended emotions and their usually more calm or unemotional communications style. It's just a job, and they often seem unable to 'act their role in character' as well in a communications medium as they might be able in a real face-to-face  conversation/confrontation. You might have outright rage and indignation one moment, ho-hum the next, and more anger later -- an emotional yo-yo. With respect to being thick-skinned, no amount of criticism will deter them from doing their job, and they will generally continue their old disinfo patterns without any adjustments to criticisms of how obvious it is that they play that game -- where a more rational individual who truly cares what others think might seek to improve their communications style, substance, and so forth, or simply give up.

7) Inconsistent. There is also a tendency to make mistakes which betray their true self/motives. This may stem from not really knowing their topic, or it may be somewhat 'freudian', so to speak, in that perhaps they  really root for the side of truth deep within.

I have noted that often, they will simply cite contradictory information which neutralizes  itself and the author. For instance, one such  player claimed to be a Navy pilot, but blamed his poor communicating skills (spelling, grammar, incoherent style) on having only a grade-school education. I'm not aware of too many Navy pilots who don't have a college degree. Another claimed no knowledge of a particular topic/situation but later claimed first-hand knowledge of it.

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I will copy and paste the above, every time you attempt to spin, lie, and deceive your way out of the corner you backed yourself into when you attributed with me a quote that I had not made.

I will draw attention to the fact that you have done this on several ocassions. I will draw attention to the fact that your fellow disinformationalists Debus and Donnie Darko also do as you do.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 04:57:59 PM » Post #60289  Reply to: Guest at Post 60194

Can you explain what you mean by this or show me some examples? I must have missed all the 'grand explanations'...

No 'grand explanation' - pretty self evident (from earlier):

The story went from Arabs did it -> the Government let it happen -> the Government did it -> Zionist in the Government did it -> 'Israelis' did it. Each step in response to the evolving narrative on the Net.

Looks to me, someone is trying desperately to stay in front of that narrative - to lead - except that they are constantly a day late and a shekel short...


And today:

The micro-particle obsessions didn't keep us diverted, so simply scream on top of you keyboard something along the line of "Zionist shill infested forum", repeat 6,000,000 times and hope for 'magic' to make it so...


Because the owner of the site is nearly as bereft of scruples and out-to-lunch as you 'Three Stooges' are.

Not remotely - [Shakes head] - pride is a terrible thing.
I know, because I had to pinch myself to "get over it"... there IS bigger stuff...
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 07:30:01 PM » Post #60309  Reply to: NOLAJBS, at Post 60287

In reply to:As well as the other posts regarding porning you out ...

I wanted to wait and see how this panned out before I provided a proper response.


Well, you're full of shit as usual.

Never, EVER, do I EVER look at porn sites - sorry, just has ZERO interest to me - and yet - AND YET, I have been bombarded with these ads through Anonymouse approximately ONE THIRD OR MORE of the time I use said proxy through this site.

Not only that, but I clear cookies and cache regularly (since I'm a security and privacy nut). And I suspect that others will echo my claim.

So your 'theory' holds ZERO water.



BAG Anonymouse and look for something else. End of story.




(Or, are you looking toward it achieving the same ends that 'Three Stooges' accuse you of?)
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 07:34:42 PM » Post #60312  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 60289

Not remotely - [Shakes head] - pride is a terrible thing.

Yes, it is, isn't it?

It's prevented Nola Jbs from delivering to me a MUCH-DESERVED apology for nearly six months.

Why you continue to offer the insipid fool your programming skills FOR FREE, is beyond me.

Pride is bad, but FALSE pride is even worse...
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Re: Ed Haas and the \'conversation in Hebrew\'
on: February 09, 2007, 07:56:34 PM » Post #60324  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 60289

AAAAaaaaaaannnnnnd.....just as I expected, the \'site owner\' is attempting to ban my IP.  Why? For telling the truth, as usual....

Sometimes the truth ain\'t pretty. And in THIS case, the truth is that this site owner has SEVERELY compromised principles.

Which is I why I could care LESS about (re-)applying for membership here. Because the Dictator-in-Chief is a sorry and sad victim of False-Pride, lack of scruples, and an asshole attitude.

Three Stooges, make yourselves at home. You fit PERFECTLY here.
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Re: Ed Haas and the \'conversation in Hebrew\'
on: February 09, 2007, 07:58:19 PM » Post #60325  Reply to: Proemio, at Post 60289

oooooooh, check it out!!!

Looks like the \'site-owner\' even DELETED the posts where I posted the name,

LOFL....

Edited: Stop, ok?
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Re: Ed Haas and the \'conversation in Hebrew\'
on: February 09, 2007, 08:04:33 PM » Post #60328  Reply to: Guest at Post 60325

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Edited: Stop, ok?

Not until you apologize, asshole.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 08:13:09 PM » Post #60334  Reply to: Guest at Post 60328

Turan, You talk like a tough guy, but I bet youre a 2 bit fairy.

This is a discussion board for free speech, not your personal insult board. Get a life! I dont give you any credibility whatsoever. You dont pound information into someone, you present it to them and listen to their response. Thats how the truth is found. You evidently have all the truth in your skinny head already.
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 08:34:36 PM » Post #60343  Reply to: Guest at Post 60312

It's prevented Nola Jbs from delivering to me a MUCH-DESERVED apology for nearly six months.

Apologize for what? For letting you go on for days, instead of 'saving' you right away?
If anything, the owner showed undue restraint, tho understandably.

When you showed up again, I thought "cool - maybe we just had a friendly-fire incident"...
I guess I was wrong.

That whole event was a rotten, poultry-stinking setup from the get go.
You where either misled (everyone is at least once) or in on it - I still hope the former.

That's why I said: "crying shame" - a waste...
Whatever; in the end it is/was a relative tempest in a tea pot, and makes no difference to me...
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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 08:48:57 PM » Post #60348  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 60230

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First, How do you know what Turdpan was specifically referring to? How can you speak such a degree of certainty?

The poster now known as Turan, was at one time, a close friend and compatriot. I have probably read every post ever made by this individual, here, and still refer back to them for information. And further, Turan and DD are not the same person; hell, they do not even live in the same hemisphere. I have communicated with both, via email, and know them both better than most.

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Second, if Alex Jones has been discredited by this forum, then why is the forum linking to external websites that promote Alex Jones? I refer specifically to the Patriot Saints website.

Perhaps you misunderstood what I said, either because I was unclear, or deliberately. Jones was discredited by most active members, on some threads that took place before, and after the Bilderburg conference in Ottawa last year. I never said it was unanimous. (Is anything ever unanimous?) The links you speak of are nothing I care about, neither the fact that they exist, nor the reason they do. It is up to each of us to get info where we can, discard that which we do not believe, and put the rest to good use.

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then why is obvious Alex Jones supporter and promoter, Lucidthots, being allowed to present an argument that "the White House and the Pentagon Staged 911", and that "Bush/Rockefeller/Rothschild use Jews and Israel as cover for their operations", without being challenged?

Lucid has his own ideas on many things; some ideas that not all here agree with. Why would one think he should be challenged. Personally, I find a lot of what he says to be interesting, and insightful, simply because he has a different view than that of others. He actually makes me think, and reconsider my opinions. This is a good thing. Also, Lucid was not one of those who held Jones in repute, nor should he have been! He chose to support Jones, that is his prerogative; for this you would have him challenged or silenced??

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Fourth, why is a discussion on an article of disinformation from Prison Planet regarding WTC7 considered a legitimate topic of discussion yet Ed Haas and the conversation in Hebrew is not?

And this one is the killer, and I cannot answer it, in its entirety. Get this: I saw the article elsewhere, and was going to post it myself, but was busy that morning, and did not have the time to do it. I forgot about it, until I saw that you had posted it. I hoped it would develop into something, but it soon degenerated into what it is now. I think that this is a real loss. I also wonder if the problem with the whole thread does not come from people trying to suppress it, but from personality conflicts. I am now happy that I DID NOT post it!!!!

I have largely stayed out of it, as I am not interested in getting into shit flinging at the present moment, and should I wish to, there are others that need my attention more than those here. However, I HAVE bookmarked this thread for further attention!!



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Re: Ed Haas and the 'conversation in Hebrew'
on: February 09, 2007, 08:54:27 PM » Post #60349  Reply to: PlanetQuo, at Post 60230


Third, if Alex Jones has been discredited by this forum, as you claim, then why is obvious Alex Jones supporter and promoter, Lucidthots, being allowed to present an argument that "the White House and the Pentagon Staged 911", and that "Bush/Rockefeller/Rothschild use Jews and Israel as cover for their operations", without being challenged?


The people you think are Americans are Jews. Jews are doing what theyve always done, theres just a lot more of them now.

Its a subtle game that is being played by the intell services.

I am not saying that Jewish organized crime was not involved.

I am saying that the intell services are trying to redirect blame away from the White House, Pentagon and its financial backers like Rockefller and Rothschild....and move the blame to outside the country to Mossad and the "State Israel."

This is the game that counter intell is playing.
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