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From: webmaster@planetquo.net
To: jmzlinton@hotmail.com
Subject: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko
Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2007 06:04:44 +0100


There is no question about it. The person who operated the Darko handle before I forced them into discarding it, is the same person who is operating the Quo Vadis handle. Look at the writing style - it's identical.
 
http://www.nolajbs.net/forum/index.php?topic=7932.msg64300#msg64300


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----- Original Message -----
From: jamie linton
To: planetquo@hotmail.co.uk
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 7:38 PM
Subject: takeourworldback links to planetquo audio file


Check this out: http://www.takeourworldback.com/short/hufschmid.htm
 
It's the page on Hufschmid from the site I found awhile back that you didn't like because of the 'scurrilous' lies it was spreading about Huffy. It links to an audio file of yours on planetquo.net.
 
They're having a little back and forth, trading blows.
 
You know, I gotta tell ya, I agree with this person's general gist. Apart from the fact I don't believe Hufschmid is an "agent provocateur", I pretty much agree with what he/she says. I just think Hufschmid wastes too much time on bullshit. I don't think he disbelieves what he says or the claims he makes about people, I just think he's wrong in most cases, perhaps a bit paranoid. I really don't know what lies behind it; jealousy, paranoia or just an odd little personality trait - all I can tell you is that my best gut instinct and common sense is going with the other guy, because he's basically giving me my own opinion back in that article of his. I look forward to hearing what you've got to say in Hufschmid's defense, if anything. Or even if you know who this guy is. Also, admittedly, I've not looked at anything else on that site since you alerted me to it's anti-Hufschmid content; I'm about to go back now and check the rest of the site out, look at the quality of the research.
 
Hope you're well, my brother - I just sent the first three paragraphs to you on MSN, but you're offline so I'm not sure you'll get it. Talk soon.
 
J.


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----- Original Message -----

From: "Jamie" <jmzlinton@hotmail.com>

To: <planetquo@hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 8:32 PM

Why is Smith linking to this article? It's a damning indictment of Bollyn.

It seems strange to me.


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From: planetquo@hotmail.co.uk
To: jmzlinton@hotmail.com
Subject: Re:
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:51:38 +0100

I wish I knew Jamie. Daryl has been exhibiting some strange behaviour as of late. Ask Nina....she might know why since she chats with him on the phone every other night.


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From: jamie linton
To: Webmaster
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2007 8:14 PM
Subject: RE: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


Jim. I only just opened this email, man - I'm pissed that I've been missing these, I had to hear about the Quo Vadis saga from Nina.
 
Use my other email address - jl271jl@yahoo.com.au - I use that one more often. I actually read those emails.
 
Have you been following this thread?

 http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/1154
 
It's three long pages of arguing and debate over the integrity of DBS and Hufschmid, basically. You're mentioned briefly in that thread, if my memory serves me correctly. But only indirectly, by way of your mutual links with TFC.
 
The guy behind TOWB is a blogger called 'Poseidon'.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: jl271jl@yahoo.com.au
Sent: Tuesday, 24 April, 2007 9:27:05 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


Hi Jamie
 
Just got back from Glasgow tonight....been up there since Good Friday due to a death in the family. I have a lot of catching-up to do.
 
I've just read through that thread on WUFYS. The writer 'Poseidon' reminds me very, very much of my old NOLAJBS adversary Debus. Indeed, I would not be shocked to discover that Poseidon was yet another of Debus' many handles. Same writing style, same in-depth knowledge of the WTC explosions, same 95% fact, 5% disinformation, same attacks on Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn, same promotion of Collins-Piper. Yawn, yawn.
 
Ah...Nina, the wonder-girl who persuaded DBS to end his fight with NOLAJBS. Nina, the 22 year-old agent who Smith chats with every other night on the phone. Nina....aka 'A Possum Princess' on the NOLAJNS forum. Nina....friend of Joe Molero and supporter of Donnie Darko/Quo Vadius/Brendon O'Connell/True Believer. Ah...Nina....the eagle-eyed little honey who is so fucking astute that she couldn't tell the difference between Darko/Vadius although it was so fucking obvious to me and everyone else who are wise to the deceivers of NOLAJBS. Like I said before Jamie, that girl is bad news. Smith has a lot of explaining to do.
 
More on the Quo Vadius/Darko fiasco on the updated page:
 
http://planetquo.net/NOLAJBS/index.htm
 
and here:
 
http://planetquo.net/NOLAJBS/Screenshots/Darko_Response.htm
 
And Since Possum Princess....oops...sorry...Nina...supports Quo Vadius and shares the view that I am a "snake" then she too is now in the firing line. NOLAJBS can gloat all they like, this fight is not over....not by a long shot. In fact, it's only just begun. Expect HUGE developments in the next few weeks.
 
Chat soon
 
Jim

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----- Original Message -----
From: jamie linton
To: planetquo@hotmail.co.uk
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 7:32 PM
Subject: RE:


I have a fair bit of information from Nina that I'll pass on to you if you can assure me that it will be used for your interest only. No publishing on your site, so sharing with Hufschmid, no fucking around. I don't want her to be seen to be weighing in on it, especially via me. I don't know that any of it will be helpful to you, but I'm sure you're wondering what the fuck's going on at the moment, and where you stand with that crew. I'd be backing away slowly, personally.
 
Having said all that, I've trashed the email, as I do with everything that I read, to clear my inbox (and by extension my mind). But I'm sure I can retrieve it through 'trash' or 'sent' items. It's a myspace email.


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Hi Jamie,
 
I give you my word that any information that you give me regarding Nina aka 'A Possum Princess' will not be published on any of my websites or shared with Eric Hufschmid. Nina is under investigation. I am interested solely in her relationships with Daryl Bradford Smith and Joe Molero and Madthumbs.
 
Daryl and Eric have regularly called for ALL truth seekers to be investigated - no blind obedience, no exceptions. Fair enough. Daryl is now a part of my NOLAJBS investigation since Nina has been positively-identified as the person who posts on NOLAJBS under the handle of 'A Possum Princess'. If you read the posts that Nina has made on this thread, you'll see that Nina has already weighed in to it - rather heavily too. That was most unwise indeed - live by the sword, die by the sword. You know how I operate Jamie. If Nina is indeed having regular telephone conversations with Daryl, then I will be asking hard questions of Daryl.
 
I'm sure I'll find clues in Nina's correspondence. I know what I'm looking for. With regard to The French Connection, I will continue to support and promote the project until if and when I find good reason not to. I reserve judgment until  I can establish the facts regarding Nina vis-a-vis Daryl Bradford Smith. I already have a folder on Nina with which I can cross-reference any information that you can supply me with.
 
From the events that I witnessing, it is rather clear - to me anyway - that a psyop is taking place right now. I've been following the thread about DBS on Wake Up Your Slumber with great interest. So, someone named 'Poseidon' is the brains behind the Take Back Our World website. This guy's writing and argumentative style are remarkably similar to those of Debus. Although I have no concrete evidence that the Poseidon and Debus handles are being managed by one agent, it would not in the least surprise me to discover this to be the case. Another researcher I liaise with believes that Scott Makufa aka Victor Thorn is Poseidon's true identity. Again, it would come as no great shock if this was actually the case. Nothing surprises me any more. Slowly but surely. masks are beginning to slip and someone is due will soon fall....it won't be me, that's for sure.
 
Regards

Jim


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:26 PM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I see what's going now. She thinks I know more than I do, which is why she's telling me so much. Now it's sounding to me like she was actually posting in that forum, under the name of "A Possum Princess", if I'm reading you correctly. She must have thought I knew all about it through you. I didn't; like I said, I've only just found the QuoVadius emails, and the Maurice Greenberg ones, for that matter.

You're right, there are similarities between Debus and Poseidon.

I'm gonna write again tomorrow, it's 6.24am here and I haven't slept. I'm sorry to hear about your family member, mate. What can you say to something like that.

Talk soon.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 8:01:03 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


The positive identification of Nina was made by Suzette via photographs on her profile. Suzette is prepared to go on the record to verify that Nina is the person posting as A Possum Princess. I share your belief that Nina thought you knew more than you actually did. That is why she was assigned to you! She's a honeypot...that's her job!!
 
While she was an information-gathering exercise, her associate Darko was attacking me via attacking you. Read the posts she makes in support of Darko. Now figure this one out. Nina considers me to be a "snake." She is pleased that Darko has 'patched things up' with Daryl and condemns me. Quo Vadius makes a big song and dance about your 'connection' to the Aussie Feds and your location being in 'Jew Central'. If Vadius is correct then why is Nina even talking to you? This makes no sense. But if you see them both as working as part of a bigger team, then it all makes perfect sense!
 
I'm pleased that you see the similarities between Debus and Poseidon. Debus is highly intelligent, an excellent writer and very knowledgeable. These characteristics aside, Debus and Poseidon share other common traits. Both have detailed knowledge regarding the WTC collapses, both write in a similar style, both use the same arguments and have a similar argumentative style, both despise Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn, both support Michael Collins-Piper, and, most telling of all, I have caught both spreading disinformation. What is most interesting of all is that Debus stopped posting on Opposing Digits in the weeks immediately prior to publication of the April 20th update to Poseidon's hit-piece.
 
Thanks for the condolences. Life goes on though....been here before.
 
Regards
 
Jim

 

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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:25 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I don't know about this "assigned to" me thing. I contacted her, or at least befriended her. I don't get the feeling that she's using me for anything, but I will always err on the side of innocence when it comes to the small fish. This paranoid internet secret agent game is kinda silly, I think. Just look at the paranoid convolutions of that DBS Indicted thread. I saved this as an example of how full of shit Poseidon can be, but it fits this context well, too:

"So the Zionists - through the Church of Scientology - employ "two key guys" to establish a cult following amongst truth-seekers. In the summer of 2006, Hufsmith succeed in manipulating Bollyn and drawing him away from AFP, where he had done some great work in exposing Zionism. Maybe he was persuaded to go along with the Danner story and even stage the Taser assault and arrest because Hufsmith had mesmerized Bollyn convinced him that it would benefit the patriot movement."

Po also speculates that UAZ could be Bollyn. Heh.

Having said all that, I do believe there's an operation going on presently, and disingenuous player(s). There's no way that all this is just a figment of everyone's combined imaginations, and there's actually nothing going on at all, everyone's kosher. I'm not going to go any further than that, except to say that I think Poseidon is pretty accurate with his analyses, and presents a reasonably accurate portrayal of my own beliefs - ie: less agents, just a few in key places, and justified skepticism of Hufschmid et al. Even if Poseidon or Nina are exposed as diZinfo agents, I'll still retain a healthy distrust of DBS and Hufschmid. Which reminds me that I've been meaning to ask you: why is Eric precluded from your "investigation" or suspicions? What sort of feeling do you get from him over the phone, and DBS too, if you've spoken to him? Because it's one thing to hear and feel someone via a radio broadcast, but your intuition can kick in when they're addressing you personally. That's why I find this internet sleuthing so frustrating. Real-life interplays and relations just don't exist, you're deprived of your ability to really suss people out, chasing ghosts. But Hufschmid, I just feel like there's something wrong with him, one way or another.

Oh, also - something that EVERYONE seemed to miss at WUFYS - Fester fucked up and used his own name when he was talking about UAZ. I can't be bothered finding it amongst all that crap, if it's even possible, but NO ONE MENTIONED it. I was expecting Po to JUMP on that. I know it's just a handle-name, but it's still something you shouldn't get wrong.

Ok, Nina's info. It hasn't comforted me much to read (before you find out I have info) that Nina's on your hitlist, Nina's going down, Nina's under investigation, oh but "I promise I'll keep it to myself". It's like you've just sworn to kill the bitch and I'm offering you a knife, hoping you won't do it. But I'm going to trust in your sense of honour, because I believe you have one.

I don't know if html works here, like bold or italics, but

<b>IS ERIC HUFSCHMID THE ALAN DERSHOWITZ OF THE 'TRUTH MOVEMENT?


hehe.. funny. ok, here's the deal from my perspective. first...about Daryl disowning me... back in October, he did unbefriend me, or delete me on Myspace with no explanation. At the same time he deleted Madthumbs and Slavo. Up until that time, both Madthumbs and I had been in regular telephone contact with him and he'd assured me that Madthumbs was "a great guy". [snicker snicker]

Since the three of us were cut at the same time, I reckoned it must have been for the same reason..or whatever. So when asked, that's what I gave as the reason. When Daryl called me about two weeks later I naturally asked him why he had disfriended me and whether it had to do with the Madthumbs/Slavo shakeup. He said it not, but rather it was ....get this bullshit... "a scary picture"...!!..that I had set as my default on myspace for all of a day and a half. Yes, DBS maintains to this day that the scary picture caused it. (mmhmm my ass!). anyway, after that we re-friended each other and resumed speaking regularly.

What recently freaked me out though... was a "guide" I found on iamthewitness about how to recognize charlatans... Zionist operatives who may be trying to woo or help you. Well, Daryl's behavior towards me employed every single fucking tactic [<==this was in bold, Quo. J.] described in their guide as "warning signs".

So that was about a month and a half ago... Last few times I spoke with DBS, I asked him if he and/or Eric was affiliated in any way with Judicial-Inc. Emphatic "No's". "Are you positive?" "Yes, Nina, I'm positive. We're not affiliated with or connected to Judicial in any way besides mutual links". So, aside from employing ever known Zionist manipulation tactic, he had also just become a liar. [I had told her previously that I believed Judicial was run by Hufschmid, but that I had been planning to ask you. J.]

My reason for having asked him about Judicial stemmed from the (staged) wars over at NOLAJBS. The Skunk, a regular contributor over on the NOLA forum is known to be the owner of and main contributor to Judicial-Inc. This I found curious, since Daryl and his minions were so "hostile" towards NOLAJBS and even condemned any site that linked to NOLA... yet Skunk continued to participate at the forum. So we came to suspect that Skunk must be Eric's handle at NOLAJBS... and that the whole "fight" was staged theater... including the plea I got from NOLA himself for help.

NOLA asked me to share some personal information, such as Daryl's phone number, with him since Daryl (Eric, actually) posted NOLA's personal address, phone number, etc on iamthewitness. So after casually hinting to Daryl to remove it... saying, "That's really gay... obnoxious.. whatever" I gave NOLA the phone number with the express instructions to 1. give me a day to get ahold of Daryl and tell him and 2. not to publicly post the number but rather to call Daryl directly and reason with him... because D was usually a rather reasonable person on the phone.

I spoke with Daryl directly about the NOLA shit and he said he couldnt remove it because he really has little to do with the website and "frankly, I wouldnt know how to change it or even access my site." [snicker snicker] So after much arguing I got him to "have Eric remove the links". (Mind you, this is before I'd realized that NOLA was probably in on the charade as well.)

So I told NOLA what he'd said and to confirm that the links had been removed. "Indeed" they had been. phew Just a few days later, all of NOLA's "personal" information (and more) reappeared on PlanetQuo's site which iamthewitness prominently linked to. So it was "worse".

A friend and I started checking out all the back posts on NOLAJBS by the operative players (including you, but only peripherally lol). The night we were reviewing DonnieDarko's and PlanetQuo's interchange... (weeks or months after it had been posted) PlanetQuo suddenly "exposed" DonnieDarko as QuoVadius on his childish, insipid and very French-connection-Hufschmid-ish NOLAJBS exposed... part 1 diatribe site. Ugh.

Anyway, though the DonnieDarko had originally been hostile to DBS (and by extension, PlanetQuo), he returned with the VadiusQuo handle singing DBS/Huf's praises but still disparaging the shit out of PlanetQuo... claiming he'd (QV) talked Daryl and Eric into "disowning" the "unstable Zionist op and JEWelry shop owner" PlanetQuo. It was all very theatrical and highly suspect. So many fucking sock puppets on NOLAJBS.. and obvious ones at that. Twas VadiusQuo that openly accused me of being a Zio-operative and incompetent "honeypot". [snicker snicker Even though I might be the only member on that whole fucking forum who naively disclosed my real-life identity from the start. oh well.. So fucking gay.] VadiusQuo said I was as "transparent as a Fugazi Diamond". Yeah, whatever. Suzette Whippette, Daryl's "sidekick" (either himself, his sister or his ex-wife, etc) was involved in these discussions and never disavowed what QuoVadius had to say about PlanetQuo. That neither QV nor Whippette were banned from NOLAJBS was rather telling as well.... welcome to Sock Puppet Theater. I'd reproduce the relevent posts if I thought you'd care to see them.. lol yeah as I figured.

So, Daryl's a fucking scumbag liar... and maybe a Zionist operative too (at least according to his own fucking checklist!... "Daryl Bradford Smith Fingers Daryl Bradford Smith as Zionist")

NOLAJBS (Joe) is probably a fucking disingenuous pussy. PlanetQuo and VadiusQuo, if not the same person, are deconstructive scoundrels. In fact, that entire wing of the "truth" movement is immobile... going absolutely nowhere... and worse, it's probably by fucking design!!

But they've got almost no reach... no influence... they're decidedly unimportant. That said, if they were really la Zionista, would they waste so much time and energy with bogging just such a small fraction of the target audience down with sixth grade witch hunts and tit-for-tat? That's the only thing which causes any doubt for me. Maybe they're just pitifully ineffectual, narcissistic assholes? heh heh heh

Another thing.. why hasn't the French Connection, Eric Hufschmid, or even Judicial-inc been flagged by the ADL? Daryl suggests that anyone targeted by the ADL is actually working for the organization. This presents a problem, however, since Christopher Bollyn is on their list. Hmm...? Conundrum... [snicker snicker]

Just to be safe, they're all on my Zionist watch-list... and I recommend extreme caution and skepticism to anyone who asks me about them. Besides that, they're already "officially" classified with jewwatch and david duke. [good goin, guys! snickers... even though I unfortunately find Duke's web content more compelling, relevant, and on-topic than Eric Huffy's constant attacks on would-be allies!]

Cheers, Nina.

* * *

So there's some data for your bank.

I believe she's right that this "shill"-hunt is going nowhere. You must realise that the minute you vanquish a handle, the same agent will pop up through another one, even when it's not conclusive. What about 9/11? What about "Zionist crimes"? I think this is bullshit. I'm extremely suspicious of Hufschmid and DBS for promoting these games, as fun as they are to play. I really enjoyed the WUFYS thread, I found it fascinating, but what I see there is a perfect example of the shills having done their work. Look at Poseidon, look at you, look at Hufschmid, Glenn, Smith, everyone. No one's looking at 9/11 anymore. What a perfectly executed COINTELPRO op someone has pulled off. Whoever it is could probably bow out now and it'd still last for weeks.

Anyway, I'm sure you wanna paw through all that, so I'll leave you to it. I had more questions for you I think, but they can wait. Take care brother, talk soon.


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


Now I remember my questions.

The more I think about it, the more I think Nina just likes to talk. I haven't even read the Quo Vadius posts yet, I know nothing about any of this. And that's where my questions come in.

I HAVE read one post of QV's, or half of one. I clicked on a link you sent me to NOLAJBS and hung around long enough to see that QV and DD were the same dude, or seemed to be, but I was busy at the time so I didn't read any more. So - have you been posting at NOLAJBS again? If so, under what handle? I'll probably find this out for myself in a minute, because I'm about to go and read up on this QV shit, but I was gonna send you this to give you more from Nina anyway, so I thought I'd ask.

I assume you have indeed been posting, or D.D wouldn't have brought me and my "fed connections" up (it's true, I live next to one, I told him that myself). He's full of shit about Mt Lawley being Jew Central, too. He's an idiot. Pisses me off that he's still talking about me when I've been pushed out of the game, little cunt.

Now perhaps the most important bit of info from Nina the possum princess.

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I've not spoken to Daryl for at least a month and our most recent calls were relatively acrimonious... and the conversations largely revolved around 1. the "private" NOLA info 2. links to Judicial... which he continuously lied to me about. (Remember his command? Investigate the investigators..?.)

Furthermore, my last two or three myspace messages to Daryl went unanswered. Read but unanswered. So it's safe to say that things have been "sorta weird" as of late with Daryl, yes.

On several occasions, (especially during heated discussions and when he was lying, i think) he did mention not feeling well, but he certainly sounds healthy on recent TFC programs.

Once, in Jan or Feb I believe, he told me something to the effect that he's getting "burnt out" on the war for truth.... that "we can never win this war.. never beat that kind of entrenched power"... and that he's considering quitting the fight in order to "enjoy more time outdoors". In that same conversation he even expressed some suspicion about Eric, Bollyn, Dr Day, etc ...but that suspicion turned out to be short-lived...it had disappeared by the next time we spoke. Perhaps it was intended to be a trap for me? I don't know anymore.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 8:42:31 PM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I'll split this reply into two parts and will send you the second after I have analysed what Nina has said.
 
Have I been posting at NOLAJBS under another name, you ask? The answer to that question is absolutely not. I have neither the time or the inclination. Indeed, I want to conclude my NOLAJBS investigation ASAP and get cracking with other important projects. I am, however, able to log in to NOLAJBS via another account should I so require. That is how I can go in and take screen shots of hidden threads.
 
It was while I was looking for information about Lone Wolf that I spotted the handle Quo Vadius. I checked the profile, noted that the e-mail used was a Bigpond address and that raised a red flag since I know Bigpond are DD's Internet provider. I took a look at one of Quo Vadius' posts and spotted straight away that this was Darko under a new name. The stupid cunt ought to learn how to spell Absolutely!!!


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I didn't mean "are you posting under another name deceptively", Jim. I just assumed you must be having dialogue of some sort with Nina and D.D for a) Nina to be telling me that you outed QV as DD, and b) DD to be giving you shit about my location and "fed connections". For all that to be the case, they'd have to know you were PlanetQuo, regardless of what handle you were using. The reason I thought you might be using another handle is because I don't how else you would have gotten back in in the first place.

But you should have full access again now anyway, because I do. I've just been reading Debus' posts again to compare his writing style and word use to Poseidon's, and I seem to be able to go anywhere I like. I don't know whether it's because they've deleted my account and therefore UNBLOCKED my account, or what.

I know about the bigpond address already, because I've been reading your NOLAJBS report. I clicked on the link to it accidently when looking for the link to the QV posts @ NOLAJBS forum in one of the emails you sent me, and got stuck there out of interest.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 25 April, 2007 9:17:21 PM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


My comments are in bold:

I've not spoken to Daryl for at least a month and our most recent calls were relatively acrimonious... and the conversations largely revolved around 1. the "private" NOLA info 2. links to Judicial... which he continuously lied to me about. (Remember his command? Investigate the investigators..?.)
 
I believe that Nina is telling the truth when she says that she and Smith haven't spoke in a month. This accords with the information that I already have. I do not believe that Smith would discuss the publication of Joe Molero's personal details on I Am The Witness since it wasn't he who posted that information!!!! Eric is the webmaster of the French Connection, not Daryl. Indeed, Daryl instructed Eric to remove Molero's details following protestations from Nina, Quo Vadius and Molero himself.
 
What 'lies' has Smith told Nina about Judicial Inc? Why should Smith lie about the Skunk's website? Moreover, the Skunk is/was an integral part of NOLAJBS. Think about that for a second. I personally do not view Judicial Inc as a credible source of information. Some people believe that Hufschmid is the webmaster of Judicial Inc - a charge he flatly denies. Judicial Inc and I Am The Witness are hosted on the same domain are almost identical in layout. The Skunk writes in a style similar to Eric, and Eric links a lot to Judicial Inc. Clearly, there is a case for Smith and Hufschmid to answer.

Furthermore, my last two or three myspace messages to Daryl went unanswered. Read but unanswered. So it's safe to say that things have been "sorta weird" as of late with Daryl, yes.
 
Mainly Eric and occasionally Suzette manage DBS' MySpace profile so it does not necessarily follow that Daryl is ignoring Nina on MySpace. I do know for a fact, however, that DBS has expressed suspicions about Nina recently. And so he should - she's a friend of Joe Molero.

On several occasions, (especially during heated discussions and when he was lying, i think) he did mention not feeling well, but he certainly sounds healthy on recent TFC programs.
 
Again, accusations of lying but nothing about precisely what Smith is alleged to be lying about. Smith is ill....there is no doubt about that. He has Hepatitis C which is quite a serious illness. I'm not quite sure what Nina's point is here.

Once, in Jan or Feb I believe, he told me something to the effect that he's getting "burnt out" on the war for truth.... that "we can never win this war.. never beat that kind of entrenched power"... and that he's considering quitting the fight in order to "enjoy more time outdoors". In that same conversation he even expressed some suspicion about Eric, Bollyn, Dr Day, etc ...but that suspicion turned out to be short-lived...it had disappeared by the next time we spoke. Perhaps it was intended to be a trap for me? I don't know anymore.
 
I do not believe that Smith told Nina what she claims to have been told. Smith has NEVER stated in public that the Zionists cannot be defeated. On the contrary, he has been consistent in his message that the fight can be won if more people become involved. Nina's choice of the word war is interesting. Daryl never uses this word - he refers to the crusade against Zionism as a fight. If Smith truly believed that "that kind of entrenched power" could not be defeated then it makes no sense for him to try and fight it. Yet he does. Smith's actions betray what Nina alleges he has told her.
 
If Smith was genuinely suspicious of Hufschmid and Bollyn then why would he confide this in a 22 year old girl from New York? And if Smith did actually tell her of his 'suspicions' then evidently Nina cannot be trusted with confidential information. Whichever way you slice it, she comes out of this with more shit dripping off her than Smith does. How could Smith 'trap' Nina by telling her that he was suspicious of Hufscmid and Bollyn? Again, this makes no sense at all.

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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 4:18 PM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I forgot to set the scene for your reading of that message. The first one, the first long one that I sent you in the first email. Did you get it? You only criticised the second one.

The context was this: She brought up DBS "ditching" you or "distancing himself" from you over the NOLAJBS affair, and I replied that as far as I knew, it wasn't true, and that in fact, it was my information that "DBS has ditched YOU" (Nina). In italics, I hate caps. I remind myself of Donnie Dildo. Thus, her response as I sent it to you. It was a justification letter, basically. A "no I haven't spoken to him in awhile but everything's ok" type of letter.

"I do not believe that Smith would discuss the publication of Joe Molero's personal details on I Am The Witness since it wasn't he who posted that information!!!!"

No, she brought it up. Previous emails from her have described the convolutions of her being the intermediary between "Nola" and DBS regarding his posting of "NOLAJBS is a Zionist operation" on his site, which we all know Hufschmid looks after. I remember her "snicker-snicker"ing at his claims that he couldn't even access his site, and using it as an excuse to not take it down. It makes perfect sense that she contacted him to make similar "protestations" about the publication of Nola's details in her role as intermediary between the two, which she's mentioned to me before.

"I do not believe that Smith told Nina what she claims to have been told. Smith has NEVER stated in public that the Zionists cannot be defeated. On the contrary, he has been consistent in his message that the fight can be won if more people become involved. Nina's choice of the word war is interesting. Daryl never uses this word - he refers to the crusade against Zionism as a fight. If Smith truly believed that "that kind of entrenched power" could not be defeated then it makes no sense for him to try and fight it. Yet he does. Smith's actions betray what Nina alleges he has told her."

What Smith says on air is not likely to be a good guide for what he says in personal conversations. Of course he's not gonna go on air and say "we're doomed"; it makes him irrelevant and redundant, besides it being an all-round drag.

I think it's grasping at straws a bit to home in on word choice. It's doesn't seem strong grounds to doubt what she's saying. I don't think it's unlikely that he'd use "war" in that context. I couldn't even tell you which word my own mother or my best mate would use in that context, or any other for that matter! How can you predict what word Smith would use?

"If Smith was genuinely suspicious of Hufschmid and Bollyn then why would he confide this in a 22 year old girl from New York? And if Smith did actually tell her of his 'suspicions' then evidently Nina cannot be trusted with confidential information. Whichever way you slice it, she comes out of this with more shit dripping off her than Smith does. How could Smith 'trap' Nina by telling her that he was suspicious of Hufscmid and Bollyn? Again, this makes no sense at all."

She's a 22 year old girl, but they're friends. She's very articulate, verbose, and she can think. She's impressed me in that regard. I sent her a debate between James Petras and Dr Norman Finkelsten on the nature of Zionist influence on US foreign policy and she sent me back a fucking great deconstruction/analysis of it. Anyway, that's irrelevant. If he feels comfortable, he'll speak. He'll relax. You don't know the nature of their relationship, but sure, you can postulate and have your doubts.

As far as the "trap" goes, I took it to mean she thought he might be trying to lead her into agreeing that Hufschmid and/or Bollyn were suspect. Why you would bother doing that to someone though, is another thing. It's just another example of the paranoid climate of the anti-Zionist internet scene.

That's all I would add to your analysis, I agree with everything else. I'm leaning the way of innocence with regard to Nina. Just another person like us trying to work out who the fuck to trust, it seems to me. I'm not about to go trusting her with anything important, but until I hear news from you or someone else that changes my mind about her, I'm not worried.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Thursday, 26 April, 2007 12:44:39 AM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


I'm working on a reply to your lengthy e-mail about Nina right now. I have a lot to say!
 
All the evidence that I have seen strongly indicates that Nina is working with Quo Vadius. She focused on Daryl and Vadius on Eric as the e-mail below shows:
 
 
From: PainfulQuestions@aol.com
Date: Thu, 12 Apr 2007 00:43:20 EDT
Subject: Here is an example of what I mean
To: webmaster@planetquo.net


I just got this message from a guy calling himself Brendan. How am I to make sense of this crazy fight?
 
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Subject:  Still Involving Yourself With PlanetQuo?
Date:  04/11/07 9:21:39 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time
From:  b-bear@bigpond.com

http://www.iamthewitness.com/NOLAJBS-info.html

By all means continue to warn people about people who you think may be "other" than what they are.

But you continue to push this guy PlanetQuo?

How much more do you need Eric?

You are smart enough to question so many things but you ACTUALLY continue to show that you trust this guy? The guy with a mate in the Feds that can track people down? Are you kidding me?

Even if we ignore the Federalie mate..."PlanetQuo" is a nutter. How much more obvious does it need to be? Have you actually had a look at what he posted when I pulled him up on the Ed Haas thread? Has he explained to YOU why he "admires" David Icke and Stan Monteith? When will he explain it to anyone else?

Things have to add up Eric. Your continued pushing of PlanetQuo does not add up.

You are free to present evidence of your distrust of NOLAJBS. But then...WHY bother? The forum is TINY! Why don't you pick on L.F? Why dont you pick on SKUNK? He after all links to Jeff Rense and Mike Rivero + suspect "Aryan Nation" type sites. One of his latest posts was PURE tripe...
http://judicial-inc.biz/e.eric.gielbe.htm

Also, you MUST stop the IGNORING of the religious aspect to these people. The Judaic Elite of London are PURE Kabbahla/Freemasonic fiends. They really want to usher in the anti-Christ. That's the point of this 3000 year old conspiracy. They dont need more money...they want to rule as gods on Earth and money is simply the "means", not an "end".

Ignoring of this aspect is dead wrong. A big mistake.

One thing I do know...you are going to have a FALL if you don't back off a bit. It's the way God/Karma works. Take a deep breath. Continue to hound the suspects of the Zionist movement but there is a better "style" to do it in. You need to berate the "children" of the movement as a Father berates his children. Let them know who's boss but offer them a way back in via the correct attitude to the Judaic Zionist problem we ALL face.

People are getting their backs up Eric. Too many to mention. You can scream and shout that..."I dont care! Damn you all to hell. We're fighting Zionists here!"

You cant expect %100 from people all the time. You just cant expect it and you just cant expect people to drop their world view because you say so and when they dont drop it you go after them even more aggressively and drive them away further.

I had an argument yesterday with a very smart man. But he aint that smart when it comes to subjects like the holocaust and zionism. He really got my back up with his ridiculous counter arguments which ended with..."i dont care what the evidence is, i just believe the holocaust happened" ...after I backed him into a corner with the evidence. Can you believe this guy! And he's supposed to love history! I wanted to fucking cane him verbally but instead I simply got up and excused myself and shook his hand. Mark my words, next time I catch up with him he would have looked up some things I told him to on the net. If I had abused him he would have the excuse he needed to fob the issue off.

Most people are just naive and stupid. Just like I was and in some ways continue to be. It was a mistake to think I could somehow "heal the rift" between the forum and you. I dont know what I was thinking.

Also...how can you expect a forum to NOT be full of fights? Thats what forums do ALL over the world? There is NO forum on earth that will stand up to your standards as who can keep out all the trolls at all times?

Better to say you think forums are a waste of time but that too would be a big mistake as I learnt most of what I know from them. Forums are vital but I would rather a full time job which I hope to get when my Nursing re-registration is finalized.

Best to you and the crew.

Brendon.
 
 
The only possible way out for the NOLAJBS brigade was for them to try and place a wedge between Daryl, Eric and myself but they have failed miserably and will soon pay the price for their mistake.
 
This is what Nina had to say in response to her friend Darko's shit-stirring:
 
"Glad you got it squared though, Vad.... because you're right, TFC IS indeed the best we have for the time being."
 
Now then Jamie, contrast what Nina has stated publicly on the NOLAJBS with what she has said to you in private. Does it accord? Not to my eyes it doesn't. Why is she attacking DBS in private yet praising him in public? Go figure!
 
I have now established four things as being provable, verifiable, documented facts:
 
One. Nina was the NOLAJBS member who leant on Smith to remove the links to PlanetQuo from I Am The Witness.
 
Two. Nina is posting on NOLAJBS as A Possum Princess.
 
Three. Nina is a known associate of Donnie Darko and Joe Molero.
 
Four. Nina was at the centre of the split between Smith and Madthumbs.
 
Five. Nina is telling you one thing in private and then making contradictory statements in public.
 
Six. Nina supports the NOLAJBS explanation of events and is extremely hostile to PlanetQuo.
 
Six facts Jamie - all verifiable. Why has Nina worked so hard on Smith to attempt to persuade him to distance himself from me? The answer is rather obvious - she is part of the NOLAJBS set-up. Are we to believe that she did what she did with no prompting from the NOLAJBS hierarchy? You can if you wish, but I am having none of it. She is working hand-in-hand with the NOLAJBS deceivers. The evidence is damning Jamie.
 
You will note from my NOLAJBS expose that Lone Wolf aka Rudi Weyrich (sounds Jewish to me!) was the intermediartry who first established contact between NOLAJBS and I Am The Witness. He sent Smith e-mails for months on end trying to persuade him to link to NOLAJBS. But since I blew his cover, Lone Wolf has not been in touch with either Daryl or Eric. This is why they delegated Nina the task. Don't you find it odd that she was practically a dead profile at NOLAJBS in recent months but has recently been VERY active indeed. Go take a look for yourself and you'll see that the bulk of her posts have been made in the wake of my expose. Do the math!
 
And for the record, DBS has NOT ditched me. Indeed, he praised my expose on his broadcast and has slammed NOLAJBS heavily in his two most recent shows. I don't know what planet Nina lives on. Like everyone else at NOLAJBS, she simply ignores any evidence that contradicts her beliefs. She will pay a very heavy price for her attacks on me Jamie...I assure you of that.

 
"She's a 22 year old girl, but they're friends. She's very articulate, verbose, and she can think. She's impressed me in that regard. I sent her a debate between James Petras and Dr Norman Finkelsten on the nature of Zionist influence on US foreign policy and she sent me back a fucking great deconstruction/analysis of it. Anyway, that's irrelevant. If he feels comfortable, he'll speak. He'll relax. You don't know the nature of their relationship, but sure, you can postulate and have your doubts."
 
I am a 47 year-old bloke who is also articulate, verbose and can think. I too can deconstruct and analyse. And that is precisely what I am doing with Nina right now. True, I don't know the exact nature of Smith's relationship with Nina but I know enough to deduce that Smith has binned her as he was advised by myself and others to do - a wise move. Once, I have collated all the evidence, Daryl will be asked some searching questions. He has two choices. Either he comes clean and does a mea culpa, explaining the nature of his relationship with Nina or he refuses to answer the questions. The second option would be a bad choice because if I don't get answers I'll publish a report on PlanetQuo and allow others to draw their own conclusions. Likewise, Nina will be taking a very heavy fall soon, and I strongly advise you to slowly distance yourself from her Jamie.

As far as the "trap" goes, I took it to mean she thought he might be trying to lead her into agreeing that Hufschmid and/or Bollyn were suspect. Why you would bother doing that to someone though, is another thing. It's just another example of the paranoid climate of the anti-Zionist internet scene."

No, it's yet another example of how someone working hand-in-hand with the bad guys can make it look like she is one of us. Nina appears to be playing everyone off against each other. She has told lies about me, spread propaganda about me - she has made an enemy of me, and you know what fate those who cross me will inevitably meet with!


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2007 7:02 PM
Subject: Re: Quo Vadis = Donnie Darko


"Are we to believe that she did what she did with no prompting from the NOLAJBS hierarchy? You can if you wish, but I am having none of it. She is working hand-in-hand with the NOLAJBS deceivers. The evidence is damning Jamie."

From the very outset, the first email I got from her, she made it very clear that she was friends with both Nola and DBS. Phone contact with both. So I'm not sure what she's been posting in the fora, but she hasn't been dishonest with me about that. (By the way, can I grab a link or two to some of her posts?). I'm not trying to defend her Jim, I'm just playing devil's advocate and balancing out your err-on-the-side-of-dubious angle.

Overall, like I said, I'm not going to trust in her in any meaningful way. I agree, she's dubious. But I have no relationship with her to speak of - there's no "slowly distancing" myself from her, because there's no connection. If I don't answer her emails, she doesn't exist. How can she harm me? I mean, I don't really understand what you would have me do. All she does is run her mouth and tell me shit, and then let me give it to you! Yip, she knows you've received the email material I gave you. But no, it was all written before I asked her permission to pass it on. So don't think it as written for you - it was written for me - possibly with the knowledge that it would get to you. And I offer her no information in return.

Look:

"Wait...before you share anything, would you say your friend PlanetQuo is spiteful or simply naive and a bit brainwashed?

The reason I ask....I'd really prefer that my personal information not be plastered on his page or on any other readily accessible sites. That sort of "exposure" sucks for anyone, but for a woman, it would be exponentially more troublesome, I'd imagine. ugh In fact, PQ really shouldn't do such things to anyone... just in case there's even a thread of merit to the "karmic wheel/justice" concept.

First, maybe ask him about the "DonnieDarko/QuoVadius" handle that he's been battling with on NOLAJBS... I'm wondering if DBS (Eric) isn't staging fights between the loyal minions... because QuoVadius did seem to have a familiar rapport with the Skunk (aka Eric, lol) and even Suzette.

Anyway, divulge whatever you wish... but please just use your best judgement and remember that I'm relatively defenseless and easily imperiled.

cheers, nina

oh yeah, the thing that both Finkelstein and Chomsky have said is that they fear a populist "backlash" and "scapegoating" of American Jews in general over the actions of a small but prominent group of them. The expression of such a concern indicates they're not being entirely candid, again. Now I'm checking the resident scholar at my school, Judt... see if he parrots the same thing. (Dershowitz said that he wouldnt be surprised if NYU had a "Nazi revival rally" LOL) "

When I received this letter, I replied saying don't worry about it, it was a stupid question - of course you don't want it shared with a third party. Forget I said anything. Because why would she? And I'd already offered you the info at this point, but I was just going to change my mind and explain to you that I didn't want to be involved. It was only a small part of the email reply I wrote to her, but her reply to that was no, don't worry about it, just give it to him. Here:

"Hey you...

Please let me know what PQ has to say about it all (as well as what he'd revealed previously in his hotmail emails about QV.)

I thought about this and really, it shouldn't be a problem. You can tell whomever whatever you wish. I'm not afraid now because as soon as finals are over next month (yes, NYU) I'm moving out of my current address and losing the phone number I've been using this year. As pathetic as it may sound, I own nothing yet.. I'm still semi-nomadic. So I suppose they can have at it. lol

Oh yeah, one critical thing I forgot to mention about the Judicial-inc thing is that the Skunk has always had "special" quasi-admin privileges on NOLAJBS forum.... for at least one area, new york tattler... supposedly in order to draw traffic to the forum. So to believe there was ever any real acrimony between the two camps (NOLA & DBS/Eric) would be ridiculous.

Cheers, Nina

I sure hope Eric is being adequately compensated by his Aussie in-laws for all the time and effort he puts into this campaign! (I'd never really thought about it before, but Huffy does employ NewsCorp/Rove tactics... and the corporation, while moralizing through Fox News on the one hand (DBS), it's other entertainment holdings and such feature lots of tabloidy schlock (Judicial-Inc). wow, funny) "

So I gave it to you.

But do you see what I mean? She doesn't seem to give a shit who gets the info. I don't see much deception. She's playing both sides, but openly. Or stupidly. Or perhaps both.

Has she attacked PlanetQuo in any damaging sort of way? Because that's what concerns me the most. Outside of that, she's a piss in the sea to me.

By the way, just before I read this email I messaged her asking why the fuck she defended Quo Vapid, because I'd just seen your screenshots of his bullshit ranting about me and I remembered you saying in a previous communication that she'd "defended" him. We'll see what she says about that.

But ultimately, I don't care. Go ahead and expose her, "make her pay" etc etc. Heh heh. But don't be breaking your promise to me.

I'm still trying to understand where you're going with all this, Jim. What you're doing is playing an infinite feedback loop. There's no end to it. Sooner or later you'll be nothing more than forum exposer guy, which I think is a fucking waste. Do you see what I mean? Or tell me where it ends then. Because if you're right, and "no one ever crosses you without paying" or somesuch, where does it end? It doesn't.


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 7:14 AM
Subject: Re: Long Awaited Reply


First of all, whatever you posted on the Daryl Bradford Smith Indicted! thread mustn't have been agreeable to the site, because the whole thread has been deleted. Hmmmmmmm. Also, the other blog of Fester's that you pointed me to has no thread at all. Since you told me you'd posted comments there, I can only assume they've deleted that thread too.

Poseidon refers to Smith and Hufschmid as a unit - Hufsmith. He does it on purpose. He did it all the way through the DBS Indicted thread, presumably to imply that they're a Zionist operation.

"In the summer of 2006, Hufsmith succeed in manipulating Bollyn.."

Note that he says "Hufsmith succeed" not "Hufsmith succeeds". He's talking about more than one person, not an individual. "They succeed" as opposed to "He succeeds"; no 's' required at the end of  'succeed'.

""Oh, also - something that EVERYONE seemed to miss at WUFYS - Fester fucked up and used his own name when he was talking about UAZ. I can't be bothered finding it amongst all that crap, if it's even possible, but NO ONE MENTIONED it. I was expecting Po to JUMP on that. I know it's just a handle-name, but it's still something you shouldn't get wrong."

You seem to think those were Nina's words; they're not. They're mine, addressing you. If I fucked up and put the quotes in the wrong place, I apologise. But I'm pretty sure I didn't, as you'll find out by re-checking the email I sent you. Nina hasn't brought up that particular thread. I brought it to her attention by linking her to the TOWB Hufschmid page, and then linking her to the thread to point out who was behind TOWB, namely Poseidon. To the best of my recollections, she didn't respond directly to those points, she just defended and justified herself with regard to DBS having "disowned" her, because I mentioned both things (the DBS Indicted thread and that it was my information that she'd been ditched by Daryl) in the same email.

I'll leave it there for now - there's more in your email that I want to respond to, but I wanted to tell you about the WUFYS threads immediately. I'm glad you agree Donnie/Vadius is Fester; note their mutual use of words like "tripe", as in "the most ridiculous tripe I've ever heard" kind of context.

Thanks for your reply mate - comprehensive and thorough, as per usual. I agree with you on most points, but I'll expand on that in a subsequent email.

 


----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Sunday, 29 April, 2007 10:53:36 AM
Subject: Long Awaited Reply


Sorry about the delay in replying Jamie...I've been really busy.
 
You are your own man Jamie and free to form your own opinions about people and events, and should I disagree with your opinions I will show you why I disagree as well as tell you. I think that you know me well enough to realise that I am interested only in exposing Zionism and Zionists. From the very outset, I told you that NOLAJBS is a Zionist front. Was I wrong? The forum owner was for "many years" not only member of another Zionist front group - the JBS - but the leader of the entire New Orleans chapter. I knew nothing about the JBS until a few months ago yet was quickly able to conclude that the JBS is Zionist-controlled. The penny took a long, long time to drop for Molero.
 
"I have been with the JBS for many years, and always reserved the possibility of them being a front organization. I've been studying the Zionist aspect of the conspiracy for a while. The first go around, when I confronted the JBS, they were able to pull the wool over my eyes because I didn't know enough. The second time, they failed. In July of 2004, I gave them the boot when they tried to tell me to stay away from certain people as well as wanting to control what I placed on my web site. Then everything else fell into place. I saw them naked and bearing reproach on America by hijacking many patriots and getting them to do the cha-cha-cha and playing footsies with the Insiders. They were, and to this day, are a Zionist front funded by Nelson Rockefeller himself." Source
 
Then I discover that Molero is credited for his "contribution" by a Christian-Zionist website called First Plumbline. Molero confirms that both the NOLAJBS and First Plumbline websites are mutually acquainted when he LINKS DIRECT to the latter via NOLAJBS. I believe that my case against NOLAJBS is proven Jamie. They ARE most definitely a Zionist operation - the evidence is indisputable. I was right all along. I also told you from the outset that I believe that the NOLAJBS forum is being run by a small team of about 4-6 operatives who are managing a portfolio of user accounts. There can be no doubt that the Darko, Quo Vadius and Turan handles were all the work of the same person. I agree this game of secret agents is rather tedious but this, alas, is how the enemy operate. To defeat one's enemies, one sometimes has to adopt the tactics of one's enemies.
 
Let's examine the citation you provide from Poseidon:
 
"So the Zionists - through the Church of Scientology - employ "two key guys" to establish a cult following amongst truth-seekers. In the summer of 2006, Hufsmith succeed in manipulating Bollyn and drawing him away from AFP, where he had done some great work in exposing Zionism. Maybe he was persuaded to go along with the Danner story and even stage the Taser assault and arrest because Hufsmith had mesmerized Bollyn convinced him that it would benefit the patriot movement."
 
First point. Why is Hufschmid spelt as Hufsmith? Why the deliberate mis-spelling?
 
Second point. Poseidon ASSERTS that Smith and Hufschmid are 'employed' by the Church of Scientology but provides absolutely no evidence whatsoever in support of his claim. This, in my book, counts as a smear. You will know my research style by now Jamie - I document my statements with well-researched evidence. This is why I take so long to write. Any writer could knock-out an unsubstantiated hit-piece in next to no time. Factual and accurate work takes much longer. Poseidon should show us that what he says about Smith and Hufschmid is true rather than tell us. That Poseidon is unable to furbish any evidence renders his information useless. I am interested in the facts, not personal opinion.
 
Third point. Chris Bollyn was NOT manipulated by Hufschmid into leaving the AFP. This is a provable lie, and since Poseidon has resorted to lying, I call into question his character, his motives and, ultimately, his credibility. If we are to believe Poseidon, then Eric Hufschmid is a most persuasive, charming and influential character, and Christopher Bollyn an easily-led, easily-manipulated, fool who is incapable of thinking for himself. This just doesn't wash with me at all. Bollyn is nobody's fool and, as his research shows, is a highly-intelligent, diligent researcher. Poseidon's inference that "Hufschmid had mesmerized Bollyn convinced him that it would benefit the patriot movement" doesn't wash either. Since Hufschmid is not the slightest bit interested in the so-called 'Patriot Movement' it would not make sense for him to "convince" Bollyn to act in a manner that benefits the 'Patriot Movement'.
 
There is indeed a huge psyop taking place Jamie. Michael and I predicted back in January that such an operation was imminent. Both of us saw the writing on the wall. First-up, we have Ed Haas 'going public' on the Alex Jewnes' show with his ridiculous story about a conversation in Hebrew. The point of this exercise was to build a strawman that could later be demolished, and that will happen when the mysterious IDF veteran is finally interviewed by Jones. If the theory Michael and I are working off is correct, then we can expect this interview to take place in the next 4-6 weeks. The roots of the Haas-Jones operation were sown last December, and now that Spring is here, I expect the buds to start appearing anytime. Ultimately, the plan is to link anyone who argues that Israel carried-out 9-11 with anti-semitism and holocaust denial thus they hope to discredit the evidence we collectively present.
 
Then came the CNN hit piece on Bollyn, then the Maria Heller and Webster Tarpley's holocaust statements at the 9-11 conference in Arizona a few months ago. This was an obvious attempt to put further distance between the Globalists did it and Israel did it factions. Next came the Deguello Report and Collins-Piper's hit pieces. Next up was the rekindling of the Curt Maynard blog. Quo Vadius is the anonymous poster who attacks me DBS and Eric and introduces Scientology to the debate.
 
Now we have Poseidon's hit piece on Hufschmid and the DBS indicted thread on WUFYS. I fully expect some serious skirmishes to take place in the next few months as the psyop increases in intensity. Realignments are inevitable. People are going to have to decide exactly where they stand and where their loyalties lie. Hufschmid is bang on target when he states:
 
"You better be able to see the deception in that article. If you can't figure out that takeourworldback is another of the thousands of Crypto-Zionist web sites, you may be fooled into promoting their website because most of it appears to be exposing Zionism."
 
Fortunately, I spotted the deception straight away. Indeed, it was I who first drew Hufschmid's attention to Poseidon's hit-piece. It was I who did all the background research but was unable to identify the person/so behind Take Our World Back. Com website. I have already informed Hufschmid and Suzette that I believe the agent who operates the Debus handle is also operating under the Poseidon handle, and presented the evidence as to why I believe this to be the case. Having studied the posts that Poseidon has made on WUFYS in great detail, I am now convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that my premise is correct. I shall now set-about collecting the evidence
 
Poseidon is correct to investigate Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn. I in turn am correct in investigating Poseidon. Anyone who wishes to investigate me can do so. I care not, I am not part of any criminal network, I have no incriminating convictions hidden away in a cupboard, I am not a member of any political party, I have no connections with any intelligence agencies or Zionist-controlled groups or organisation, and I have nothing in my past that might be used to blackmail/control me in the here and now. I'm just a lone wolf who likes to hunt with the pack now and then. I've done my research, published my sites and I'm doing my level best to fight against Zionism. I take this fight very seriously indeed but you already know that. I 'follow' no one and seek not followers or disciples, but those with open-minds, a hunger for knowledge and functioning critical-analytical abilities.
 
Hufschmid is not precluded from my investigation. I will be drafting some serious questions for Eric as well as Daryl, and the answers they give will decide whether they continue to merit and justify the support of PlanetQuo. I've never spoken to either via telephone thus cannot comment on either's personas. I agree that the Internet alone is a frustrating means of assessing people but as I have shown, diligence, dogged determination, well-honed critical-analytical skills along with an understanding of psychology can overcome this obstacle.
 
Let me give you an example. I believe that the person who posts messages on Internet forums under the pseudonym of Poseidon is the same person who has posted on the Stormfront, NOLAJBS, Opposing Digits, and Anti-Neocon forums under the psuedonym of Debus. Smith identifed Debus as a Zionist deceiver on 5th December. In February on the NOLAJBS forum, Debus stated that he was a "Jewish shill." Debus stops posting on NOLAJBS and begins posting on Opposing Digits. It is worth noting that Madthumbs has regularly defended Debus. It is also worth remembering that Madthumbs is a regular poster on his own and on numerous other forums.
 
I explained to Hufschmid and Suzette in e-mails of why I believed that the person who wrote the hit-piece on Hufschmid and published it anonymously on the 'Take Our World Back' website is the same person who was posting messages on Internet forums under the name of Debus. Having spent most of the day digesting the posts made by Poseidon and Fester, I have ABSOLOUTLY...oops...sorry...absolutely no doubt whatsoever that my premise is correct - Debus and Poseidon are one and the same. I entirely share your observation of Donnie Darko/Quo Vadius. Darko=Vadis=Fester...an unholy trilogy if ever there was one. Debus=Poseidon.
 
From the start, I worked-off the theory that a team of between 4-6 intelligent, well-informed, highly-organised operatives. Everything I've learned since confirms my theory to be correct. I believe Nina is part of the team that Dark/Vadis is also a part of. And all it takes to counter these disinformationlists is a small team of 3-4 intelligent, well-informed, highly-organised truthtellers to hound them in every forum that we discover them posting in. Michael, Suzette and myself are now members of Wake Up From Your Slumber. I posted comments earlier on the DBS Indicted thread and on another of Fester's blogs.
 
"Oh, also - something that EVERYONE seemed to miss at WUFYS - Fester fucked up and used his own name when he was talking about UAZ. I can't be bothered finding it amongst all that crap, if it's even possible, but NO ONE MENTIONED it. I was expecting Po to JUMP on that. I know it's just a handle-name, but it's still something you shouldn't get wrong."
 
How does Nina know what Fester's identity is? How could she know unless she knows Fester! Think about it!!! I too would've thought that Poseidon would have jumped on Fester's mistake. Indeed, I thought he would've pounced on it like a cat on a mouse. That he didn't provides us with a huge clue. So too does this comment from Fester - particularly the "I know EXACTLY" bit. I remember seeing that phrase somewhere else written EXACTLY the same way:
 
"I find it hard to believe that who has watched this performance fails to notice the combination of tenacity and avoidance of the facts. I had suspicions after the first response, but goodness, he's absolutely naked. His whole game is REPETITION & OBFUSCATION. Shit, that's the manure I was raised on. I know EXACTLY where that M.O emmanates from."
 
And I know EXACTLY where Fester emanates from. She has trouble spelling emanates as well as absolutely. Quo Vadius is a woman. So too is Donnie Darko. We see from this post on Liberty Forum that someone named Brendon O'Connell made this post during September, 2006 using the pseudonym of Donnie Darko. From this subsequent post on Liberty Forum, we see that O'Connell states his e-mail address to be docolover@yahoo.com.au. Post #27 of this thread shows that docolover@yahoo.com.au is also the address used by someone who made TWO THOUSAND, EIGHT HUNDRED AND EIGHTY-EIGHT posts on the Conspiracy Club forum between 2005-2006 using the pseudonym of True Believer. The pseudonyms Brendon O'Connell, Donnie Darko and True Believer provide us with conclusive evidence that all three are in fact one and the same person.
 
This conclusive evidence in turn presents further conclusive evidence - conclusive evidence that O'Connell/Darko/Vadius/Believer/Fester is a liar - as if we didn't already know that. Consider the text highlighted in green. Case closed. The defendant is guilty as charged. It's that easy Jamie. All you need is awareness, diligence, critical-analytical skills, perseverance and lots of self-belief. An understanding of psychology is useful too.
 
Nina evidently enjoys playing people off against one another. Since she was the go-between who attempted to drive a wedge between DBS and myself, she is on my list. Nina seems keen on giving you information to pass to me - too keen. I smell a rat. She WANTS me to know. Why so, do you think? The only way that her information can be verified is for me to pass it on to DBS and invite him to comment. Would you be agreeable to this?

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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May, 2007 10:20:33 PM
Subject: Re: Checkmate


This profile had no information on it when I visited it earlier - just pictures of chessboards. The profile creator states their astrological sign to be Scorpio. Maybe our friend Donnie was trying to tell me something. I do recall that e-mail Donnie sent me to forward to you after we were banned from NOLAJBS ended by something along the lines of...."I might pursue this on MySpace."
 
I thought I'd make a comment just in case Mental Warfare is yet another of Darko's aliases. Regardless, it will indeed be checkmate for Donnie lass...oops...sorry...lad at the weekend. I have the bastard bang to rights over some provable lies. The execution is scheduled to take place on the front page of PlanetQuo.Com and on the revised 'NOLAJBS Exposed' page of PlanetQuo.Net that I'm presently working on. You will be creased-up with laughter when you see what I put on that page. Brendon O'Connell, whoever they might be, will suffer public humiliation before being executed.
 
Nina will suffer the same fate soon after. On that issue: I will be confronting Daryl Bradford Smith about his connections to, and involvement with Nina, tomorrow. I gave you my word that I would not reveal details of the information on Nina that you supplied me with. It is, however, that Smith sees what she has told you otherwise I have nothing with which to confront him! Smith needs to explain himself and answer the questions that I will be asking him. If he is clean, he has nothing to hide. In view of this, will you give me permission to reveal the information without naming my source. Smith does not need to know where my information came from. All he needs to know is what Nina has said. He will know whether or not she is telling the truth.
 
Hufschmid is also being questioned. Suzette has published a list of questions on NOLAJBS (page 11 of DD's 'cutting' reply to our armless friend' thread). Smith and Hufschmid are being investigated - make no mistake about that Jamie.
 
Here is another development: Poseidon is now posting at Opposing Digits. Debus initiated this thread on 22nd March. No other comments were posted until Poseidon joined the thread THREE DAYS AGO - the SAME DAY that I joined the Daryl Bradford Smith Indicted thread on Wake Up From Your Slumber and posted this comment under the heading of Almost As Absurd:

"The thesis is as absurd as absurdity can get."
 
"I'm not sure about that UAZ - This thesis is as equally absurd.
 
By the way, has anyone seen Debus lately? He went AWOL from Opposing Digits four weeks ago and hasn't been seen since. I guess he must be pre-occupied elsewhere."
 
Subtle or what? Here are links to subsequent comments:
 
Smoked Herring Under Glass by Fester
 
Hey PlanetQuo, great to see by United Against Zionism
 
The deceptions of Smith-inanity by Poseidon
 
A dead sheep festers in the dung heap? by Poseidon
 
Smith Protects Bush-Cheney by Shifting Blame to Israel by Fester
 
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to fester by Poseidon
 
Here are the comments I posted on Donnie's...oops...sorry...Fester's blog on Sunday. This is Michael's first post on WUFYS.
 
Returning to Poseidon/Debus. Do you not find it suspicious that the thread Debus began before he/she 'disappeared' (to work on TOWB and prepare the research for the WUFYS hit-piece, no doubt!!!) is dead for five weeks until suddenly up pops Poseidon to pick-up where Debus left off? Coincidence? I doubt it very much. Note the title of the thread. See the similarity between the title of the OD hit-piece and the WUFYS hit-piece?
 
Are you aware of the existence of this post on OD? I will soon be making public what followed that post on the Ed Haas thread on NOLAJBS - the one where I took Debus apart point-by-point! NOLAJBS don't know that I have recreated the following thread so please keep this to yourself. They will know when the revised 'NOLAJBS Exposed' goes up at the weekend. If Smith does not promote it by linking to it, then my support for him will be terminated. Support is a two-way street.
 
Another development: the poster who has made comments under the name of Monkey Zerg on the WUFYS thread might be this guy. Majid is listed as a friend of Smith on MySpace. He's on my list too. Indeed, he's on a lot of people's friend's lists. Majid uses this e-mail address: monkeyzerg@googlemail.com I haven't analysed the comments that Monkey Zerg has made on WUFYS. One would expect them to be strongly pro-Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn!!!!!!
 
To conclude, here is the e-mail that I sent to Suzette on 30th April in response to her for me to a detective job on the Take Our World Back website: 
 
 
I discussed this website with Eric last week.
 
While I suspect Michael Collins-Piper is involved with this, it may well be the case that someone who is a strong supporter of his is actually the author. A major clue is the article's promotion of Collin's book Judas Goats and RBN. That the article defends the American Free Press is another pointer. A further clue is the character assassination of Christopher Bollyn. Whoever wrote this material quite obviously has a grudge against Eric and Christopher.
 
There is a particular paragraph that states: "a lot of good, decent people have "become entranced" by Hufschmid and Smith. At 36:25 minutes, a caller - Mark Glenn - offers another theory: "Hufschmid and Smith - they're lunatics ... they're just nuts". This is interesting. The writer is portraying Glenn as if he were just a caller to the show but you and I both know that Glenn is part of the criminal network. That the writer downplays Glenn's significance is, in my opinion, very telling indeed.
 
Take a look at the The Columnist Guild blog. They are promoting Glenn. If you scroll down to the eleventh and twelfth listings of the Columnist Guild Member Sites you will see that they are also promoting two sites named Awareness Portal and Freedom Cell - aka NOLAJBS!!!!! NOLAJBS in turn promote the Columnist Guild.
 
Given that this article makes reference to Bollyn's CNN interview, and mentions Deguello several times, we know that it is a recent publication. That it appeared around the same time as Eric was being savaged in the NOLAJBS forum, and after the Deguello Report appeared, is not, in my opinion, coincidental. It may well be the case that someone from within that forum wrote this article. Eric has had e-mail correspondence with LoneWolf asks Rudi Weyrich. Perhaps some further clues might be gleaned from close scrutiny of what Weyrich said in his correspondence with Eric. I do not believe, though, that Weyrich wrote this - unless the infamous Debus is another of his aliases. Debus is prime suspect number one, in my investigation of this. I will explain my reasoning later.
 
Regarding The Deguello Report itself, we must not forget how I came across it. I was supposed to 'discover' it!!!!!!! Someone wanted Deguello to be found! Joe Molero began this thread on Liberty Forum on 12th February. It is most revealing indeed that he has not made any subsequent posts on this thread or anywhere else on Liberty Forum. Four days later, someone posting under the handle of Fantom posted details of The Deguello Report. Fantom joined Liberty Forum on 16th February and the link that he posted to The Deguello Report was his first post on that forum. He made five posts in total on the day he joined. This post was one of them. In it he/she states:
 
"it was written by anonymous in 1976, but if we knew who anonymous was, we would probably find out that anonymous sister was married to Rupert Murdochs son, that anonymous' ex wife was Israeli, that anonymous at one time worked on a kibbutz... and we would be sorely disappointed that anonymous would only find time to tell us those things after being forced to." If we look at another section of the Eric Hufschmid - a criminal network member article we see the same theme:
 
"Hufschmid and  Bollyn appear to have been cointelpro right from the start. Hufschmid (working for Murdoch) was installed to discredit researchers trying to expose Zionist crimes, and Bollyn (an Israeli agent) was charged with discrediting those pointing out Israel's crimes."
 
In the time between Molero initiating the thread and Fantom posting details of The Deguello Report, take a look at who was stirring things up - Madthumbs!!!!!!! Now take a look at this thread on Opposing Digits. Madthumbs defends Debus - after he has confessed on NOLAJBS to be a Jewish shill!!!!!!!! Compare Debus' writing style with that on display on the hit-piece on Eric. I certainly see a great deal of similarity. We see from this thread that Debus is attacking Eric and Christopher (and Daryl too!) in precisely the same fashion as whoever wrote the Eric Hufschmid - a criminal network member article does. The tactics are exactly the same. Look at who Debus defends:
 
"Hufschmid on Piper, AFP, WINGTV, Schoenman, Mark Lane, Willis Carto." Debus and Madthumbs are, in my opinion, working together. This is what the evidence I have gathered is telling me. It is rather strange that when Madthumbs considers Daryl to be 'racist', Madthumbs is not in the slightest concerned by Debus' racism. See here. Ask yourself why Madthumbs is not concerned by Debus posting racist articles on a Zionist-controlled White Nationalist forum!!! Since publicly confessing to being a Zionist shill on the NOLAJBS forum, Debus has found a new home at Opposing Digits.
 
As for the Take Our World Back website, whoever is operating does not want be identified. All I have managed to discover about this website is that is registered in Scottsdale, Arizona and hosted in Dallas. It's IP address is 75.126.12.69
 
 
Like I say Jamie, I was on Poseidon's case BEFORE you sent me the link to his website. I didn't know who the website owner was when I wrote to Sue in March. I do now though. Poseidon is Debus, and Fester is Darko. I need not expose them on WUFYS - they are doing a fine job themselves. I will chirp in with the occasional concise comment. There will be no fighting on WUFYS from me. By the way Jamie, WUFYS have been linking to PlanetQuo for over two years!!!!

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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Checkmate
 
(Your comments in bold)


I've noticed that qrswave holds Po in high regard, too. "One of our greatest assets in the truth movement" (or somesuch - paraphrased, not a direct quote). But it's not surprising; I have a fair deal of respect for him myself. I have the luxury of objectivity, remember.
 
I strongly disagree with Qrswave's assessment of Poseidon. Let's examine this statement by Poseidon via his website:
 
"It is always possible that Eric Hufschmid is correct and he is one of the few honest Zionist exposers, but his theory implies that the Zionists' criminal network includes so many people such as Germar Rudolf, Ernst Zundel, David Irving, David Duke, Michael Collins Piper, Victor Thorn, Lisa Guliani, James Fetzer, Mike Berger, Jim Hoffman, Gerard Holmgren, Wayne Madsen, Kurt Nimmo, Webster Tarpley, Frank Whalen, Willis Carto, Christopher Petherick, John Stadtmiller, Dylan Avery, Mike Rivero, Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, etc. On grounds of economy, it would seem more logical that most of these people are genuine." (Source)
 
Here is my assessment of the names Poseidon supplies:
 
Germar Rudolf - SEEMS OK TO ME
Ernst Zundel - SEEMS OK TO ME
David Irving - JURY IS OUT
David Duke - FRAUD
Michael Collins Piper - THE JURY IS OUT - Good information but has questionable associations
Victor Thorn - THE JURY IS OUT
Lisa Guliani - THE JURY IS OUT
James Fetzer - FRAUD
Mike Berger - FRAUD
Jim Hoffman - FRAUD
Gerard Holmgren - FRAUD
Wayne Madsen - FRAUD
Kurt Nimmo - FRAUD
Webster Tarpley - FRAUD
Frank Whalen - FRAUD
Willis Carto - FRAUD
Christopher Petherick - NEVER HEARD OF HIM
John Stadtmiller - FRAUD
Dylan Avery - FRAUD
Mike Rivero - THE JURY IS OUT - Good information but has questionable associations
Alex Jones - FRAUD
Jeff Rense - FRAUD
 
Not a good start. It get's worse:
 
"Charlie Sheen and Rosie O'Donnell must be commended for sticking their necks out and refusing to cover for the insanely evil perpetrators of 9/11." (Source)
 
Ahem. Sheen and O'Connell ARE covering for the perpetrators of 9-11. Neither are talking about Israel. Neither has said a peep about Israeli involvement in 9-11. Ask yourself why someone purporting themselves as a Zio-exposer is promoting people who toe the Alex Jones-Dylan Avery line. Hello-o. Poseidon is very clever. He is very adept at slipping in small pieces of disinformation but that is what makes for a successful disinformationalist!!!! 98% truth, 2% crap - that is how they operate. And what of the '4,000 Jews' myth. Poseidon slips that one in very nicely during this piece. But by the time the reader gets to the 4,000 Jews, they are too mesmerised by the excellent writing, research and facts that have been presented beforehand. Unless people learn how disinformationalists work, and be able to spot the 2% disinformation that the disinformationalist mixes in with the 98% truthful information, then they will be taken in by the deception.

I don't think Poseidon is Debus. I've put the quotes below in double quotations, to make them easier to see; I obviously wasn't clear enough in my previous email, you seemed to get me mixed up with Nina. Apologies man, I don't know how to use bold and italics in emails:

""He dismissed the nuclear bomb theory too quickly. I'm not an expert in this field by any means but I've read that they can make micro-nuclear devices that do not leave much residual radiation. I think the Israelis favored nukes because it meant they didn't have to put 100 tons of explosives *or whatever* had to be put in the buildings to completely demolish them, although I think the anti sites *exaggerate by a lot* the quantity of explosives required.""

""This is a link about the US's use of atomic bombs *doemstically* but I think it would be more correct to discuss the Israelis' use of atomic bombs in the context of 9/11: ""

""Well, if you had read my posts in this thread and elsewhere once again, you would know I was *vaguley* referring to Hufschmid,""

Note the parts I've highlighted between asterisks. Do you think that looks like Po? I don't. Po is meticulous and perfectionist. I'm betting you can't pull even one typo from Po's posts on the DBS Indicted thread. Spelling errors stick out like dogs' balls to me, because I spell well, like you do, and I have to say Po's writing is pretty close to flawless. Debus' is not. And it's not just his spelling; his grammar's not good, either. He's frugal with his commas, and uses caps for emphasis. An overall sloppy style, like slightly belligerent, compared to Po. Unless the person who is ostensibly using the Po and Debus handles is deliberately being sloppy with Debus' writing to throw people off, it aint the same dude. I don't think it's logical to deduce that they're the same person on the basis of their writing style. What you do have is a similarity in their opinions (notably about DBS, Hufschmid et al) and temperament (they both have a calm kind of energy, perceptible at least to me), but that's about it, to my mind. And Quo, you must realise that a lot of people are opining the same things about "Hufsmith" (sorry, it's easier) at the moment, it's not rare. Their liberal and paranoid finger-pointing is conspicuous as all fuck, and isn't doing them any favours. And then I check my emails today to see that they've put out a file headed "Why Are So Many People Insulting Us?" I mean for fuck's sake, please. I just wish they'd stop it, because I want them to be credible. I'm embarrassed to link to their information these days, Jim, and I'm serious.

The odd grammatical error aside, their writing style and argumentative styles are almost identical. So too are their tactics - OBFUSCATE-REPEAT-OBFUSCATE-REPEAT ad nausea. Their disdain of Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn and their strong support of Collins-Piper is the key to it all. Debus and Poseidon share identical objectives!!!! Plus, the 'disappearance' of Debus from OD prior to the appearance of the hit-piece on Hufschmid is most telling -  most telling indeed. Lo and behold, just after Poseidon's hit-piece gats traction, he turns up in OD on a thread started by Debus FIVE WEEKS AGO by Debus titled 'Daryl Bradford Smith and Eric Hufschmid Exposed'. For fuck's sake Jamie, how much more obvious does it need to be? We're talking about a small team of 4-6 operatives being active in all the main forums under a plethora of pseudonyms. Debus IS Poseidon. I would stake my credibility on this, if called. DD IS Fester. They are working together as a team.

Have you seen the clip of Hufschmid in Screw 9/11 Mysteries? I think of it every time Hufschmid comes to my mind, now. I saw another similar one on Out There TV the other day (which I only saw because someone left it as a comment for me on myspace). I just can't take him seriously.

I have indeed seen the clip you refer to. I understand why you cannot endorse Hufschmid. I trust that you will understand why I think the same of Poseidon. Hufschmid may well be a finger-pointing, paranoiac but he does not push disinformation. Poseidon does, and on that single issue - THE single most important issue - I will back Hufschmid ten out of ten times.

Anyway. On the Nina thing - give me a couple of days to think about it, Jim. First and foremost is my honour as a human being. I'm not convinced that Nina is dirty, so I consider my obligations to her to be the same as that of any other person I deal with on a personal level. Let me ask her outright for permission. She gave it to me when I asked her before, she should give it again, because let's face it, she must've already assumed that Smith will get the info anyway, if you have it. You're under no obligation to do the right thing by her, only me. And why would she trust your loyalty to me? Why would she trust me, for that matter? I hardly know her. Like you said, it seems she wanted you to have it. And thank you for asking, Jim, by the way. You're a good man.

You will soon be convinced about Nina - I assure you. Thank you for the accolade.

And if I do come back and give you the go-ahead to pass it on to Smith, you're welcome to tell him it's from me, I don't care about that. It's strictly a moral thing

I hadn't seen Debus' OD thread wherein he regurgitates the little convo you had with him on NOLAJBS, no. From what I can see, no one's added to it so I'd forget about it. It's not like he's publicly shamed you, I doubt more than ten people have seen it.

Debus shames only his self.
 
You didn't comment on this. Debus initiated this thread on Opposing Digits on 22nd March. No other comments were posted until Poseidon joined the thread THREE DAYS AGO - the SAME DAY that I joined the Daryl Bradford Smith Indicted thread on Wake Up From Your Slumber and posted this comment. Do you not find this suspicious at all?

I'm being hassled on MSN by a lady friend, I gotta go.

Kupio: have you finished yet?
J L: the cereal?
J L: I have, but I'm writing a response to a very long email, so I AM kinda busy.
J L: gimme 10 mins
Kupio: you never write long mails to ME
J L: Because I talk with you HERE.
J L: You're spe-shall!
Kupio: I want a LONG mail
J L: I only talk with a few people on this.
Kupio: You write mails to other people when i'm here
Kupio: how does that make me special
Kupio:
J L: but but but
J L: I'm here
J L: and you're busy too
J L: and and and
J L:
Kupio: I'm not busy
J L: no?
J L: Alright, 3 mins

 
Sounds like she's got the hots for you matey!

Talk soon mate, I'll get back to you.
Cheers. Chat soon.

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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 2:30 PM
Subject: DBS Thread


The DBS Indicted thread is back - unless it was never deleted? If it wasn't deleted, how was it missing upon me checking it twice?

I'm guessing you're 'honestabe', but I've only just started reading again.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Tuesday, 1 May, 2007 11:07:12 PM
Subject: Re: DBS Thread


It went 'missing' on me too for a while - at least the comments did. Perhaps Qrswave (who owns the site) is doing work on the page. I note that Qrswave holds Poseidon in high regard. Interesting indeed.


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: DBS Thread


Wait, Quo - are you asking me if you can give info to DBS without telling him it's from Nina? Because if you are, that's fine. I thought by "the source" you meant me. If you meant that you'll pass on info without telling him it's from Nina, cool. But if you want to tell him that it comes from her, let me get permission.


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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 May, 2007 2:13:31 AM
Subject: Re: DBS Thread


To clear up any confusion, what I'm proposing is this:
 
I furbish Smith with all the information that you have furbished me with, and in the exact same format as I received it (minus, of course, your comments!). As we both have e-mail copies of the information, you would be able to ascertain that I do not edit any of what you sent me. You would receive a copy of the e-mail that I send to Smith to verify that the information sent is exactly the same as the information received from you.
 
I tell him only that I acquired the information via a MySpace contact who is mutual to both Nina and myself. I offer Smith the opportunity to comment on the information. If he asks me to confirm sources, I would tell him that I must obtain their permission.
                                    
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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 8:22 AM
Subject: Re: Checkmate


From you:

""You didn't comment on this. Debus initiated this thread on Opposing Digits on 22nd March. No other comments were posted until Poseidon joined the thread THREE DAYS AGO - the SAME DAY that I joined the Daryl Bradford Smith Indicted thread on Wake Up From Your Slumber and posted this comment. Do you not find this suspicious at all?""

I saw you mention it, but missed the link, somehow. But Jim, you linked to OD that day, as you say, and drew Poseidon's attention to Debus. It's not as "coincidental" as you say when that's taken into account. However:

Debus: "Build up fear and suspicion - nobody is who they seem - and when you've got the reader where you want them - feeling mistrustful and paranoid - bring in soothing reassurance that there are people who are on your side, people whom you can trust: Smith, Hufschmid and Bollyn .... "

I must admit, this is exactly what Poseidon said on WUFYS. There's no doubt about it, they are similar. I know why you believe they're the same person, but you'd stake your credibility on it? I say bad move. I've seen nothing so far that can't be put down to coincidence, and as I pointed out earlier, I see differences in their writing. At this point, I'm not convinced.

""Ahem. Sheen and O'Connell ARE covering for the perpetrators of 9-11. Neither are talking about Israel. Neither has said a peep about Israeli involvement in 9-11. Ask yourself why someone purporting themselves as a Zio-exposer is promoting people who toe the Alex Jones-Dylan Avery line. Hello-o.""

Jim, pah-leeze. Are you serious? *I* think they should be commended, too! They don't finger Israel for it, so what? Rosie O'Donnell has been very careful not to blame Bush or go beyond the "all I have is questions" point. When asked if she thought the Bush admin was culpable, she said "no". How does not mentioning Israel make her disingenuous or suspect? It's the same as saying everyone in the Jones camp is suspect. They're not. They simply haven't done the research we have; they've been kept at the gate, as it were, by Jones et al. I remember being there myself. So even if Sheen (and I believe he's a Joneser) and O'Donnell (I don't know how well-researched she is) don't stand in our camp, and don't believe it was an Israeli operation, so whut?

This brings us back to the differences between our respective goals with regard to 9/11. To me, the goal is to raise awareness and push toward a critical mass majority that don't buy the official story. Your goal is to work within the existing 9/11 truth community and expose the Zionists, as far as I understand it. And I don't understand it well. Given what I'd like to see happen, O'Donnell and Sheen have done the world a favor. You're fucking harsh, Jim. Uncompromising. What if they're just naive? I disagree with your mental process here. I believe you've picked it up from Hufschmid et al, and I believe it's unfair. And in their case, paranoid, irresponsible and slanderous. Sheen and O'Donnell are on our side.

Do you really believe that it's an effective Zionist disinformation tactic to put celebrities on mainstream television to publicly and vociferously question the official 9/11 story, thereby *raising* awareness about it? Is that what you'd do if you wanted to keep a secret? If you stole something from a jewelry store and got away with it, would it help to call the police and tell them that something has been stolen from the jewelry store but it wasn't you, or would it be better to just shut your mouth about it?

I feel the same way about your (Huf's) appraisal of Debus based on the mini-nukes conjecture. It only equates to disinfo if you know it's untrue. What made you think he knew it was untrue? There are so many questions about 9/11. Be careful not to pick up Hufschmid's bad habits, mate. Take the good and leave the bad. You can't tell me it's rational to reason that way.

Call me the Devil's Advocate; someone's gotta keep your wild speculation in balance. ;)

""I strongly disagree with Qrswave's assessment of Poseidon. Let's examine this statement by Poseidon via his website:""

Qrswave's assessment is her own, not mine. I wouldn't call him an "asset" to the truth movement just yet, the jury's still out on him as far as I'm concerned. One thing's for sure though; a lot of what he says is completely ridiculous. I like UAZ. He/she does a good job of pointing it out in that thread, in a fair, reasonable way.

""And what of the '4,000 Jews' myth. Poseidon slips that one in very nicely during this piece.""

I couldn't find a reference to "Jews" or "Israelis" at all on that page. A firefox word search yielded no results.

""DD IS Fester. They are working together as a team.""

This I can believe - that DD is Fester. If they are working as a team, that's evidence (that Po is a shill). If Poseidon is Debus, that's evidence. If Poseidon is connected to NOLAJBS, that's evidence. But his indictment of "Hufsmith", his support for Piper, and his showing up on the OD forum isn't quite compelling enough, not to my mind.

""I have indeed seen the clip you refer to. I understand why you cannot endorse Hufschmid. I trust that you will understand why I think the same of Poseidon. ""

I do, you've done a good job on your little timeline. I don't think your assertions are ridiculous at all, they're just not backed by solid enough evidence yet, i.m.o.

That chick I was talking to is in India unfortunately, so no sex for me. Ah well. Maybe I'll be able to convince her to get on the webcam and play with herself or something. heh

Cheers brother, I'll get back to you asap about the Nina thing.


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 8:59 PM
Subject: Re: DBS Thread


So in other words, he'll know it's from Nina. That's all I need to know, not what form or format he'll receive it in. I know you're not going to edit it, that didn't even cross my mind.

Anyway, I'll message her now for permission.


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----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Infensus Mentis
Date: May 2, 2007 12:01 AM


Nina - Quo is asking for my permission to share some of the info (whatever it may be that he's interested in, I don't know) with Daryl, yay or nay?


* * * * * * *

She seems to think you've already spilt the beans.


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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Checkmate


From: Nina
Date: 01 May 2007, 10:15 PM


oh? HAha im pretty sure some such discussions have already taken place.... ;) why he is asking permission now, i'm not sure. (btw, if you'd rather not serve as courier, you can let planetquo know that he is welcome to contact me directly. i'm certain you've got more important and interesting things to attend to.)

cheers, Nina

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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Wednesday, 2 May, 2007 5:41:26 PM
Subject: Endgame

I wasn't asking her permission, I was asking yours.
 
Nina is not calling the shots anyway - I am...oh Haha
 
Go take a look at my MySpace profile Jamie - you do indeed have more important things to attend to. You will have another message from me waiting in your mailbox after you've visited MySpace.
 
 
ps....make sure you have your speakers turned on.

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----- Original Message -----
From: J L
To: Webmaster
Sent: Friday, May 04, 2007 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Endgame


Jim, what's goin' on you old weirdo? I didn't get another email after the one below.

"You will have another message from me waiting in your mailbox after you've visited MySpace."

Nada, bro.

You've left me wondering what the fuck's going on after having all but deleted your myspace and leaving that comment that I left you there as if it's a clue. I don't know if you've disowned me or what.

I've been talking to Nina on yahoo, and she's clean. I have no doubt. I'm sure you'll just think I've been suckered in by the pretty blonde, but it aint the case.

Message me back, mate.

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----- Original Message ----
From: Webmaster <webmaster@planetquo.net>
To: J L <jl271jl@yahoo.com.au>
Sent: Saturday, 5 May, 2007 8:48:48 AM
Subject: Re: Endgame

The word deluged does not begin to describe the last few days. Due to the unusually large volume of e-mail that I have received over the course of the past few days, I have advised all my contacts to refrain from sending me any e-mail correspondence for at least 48-72 hours with no exceptions. My filtering has been set to delete or bounce all e-mail, depending upon from where the mail emanated.
 
The days of me spending days dealing with e-mail correspondence are over. I'm drastically reducing my e-mail contacts, just as I have already done with my MySpace contacts.
 
Regarding MySpa